MAYBEBREE

The show is garbage and does not edify.

This was an informative thread and information validating the subject is freely available online. For those that aren't called to work with this particular group of folks, it's fine, you shouldn't feel threatened or accused. We should be building each other up and not allowing disharmony to permeate the thread.

These people cannot deliver themselves. That job belongs to Christ. I am descended from these people on my mother's side. My great grandmother was Lakota and from that area. She left the poverty but it followed her because of the poverty mentality. It's oppression and my family was affected by it. I am now fixing to turn 30 and am crawling out of it by God's grace...not my own design. I am very tired of people wanting people to just fix themselves...if they could Jesus would not have been needed. Why don't we pray for these people? There's no financial risk in that. Even when people are causing their problems God still loves them and wants to help them. He also wants us to pray for them and treat them with love and respect.

I used to love that show before I got saved. I've been accused of losing my sense of humor but I've really found out that alot of what is considered humor in or country is disrespectful and unnecessary. Sure it's fun to laugh, but never at another human being's expense, even if no harm is meant it's not very loving or kind. When you get saved you give up alot of worldly things and I'm sorry this is a very WORLDLY show.

Unbelievable...the heroin did something to his mind.

There are lots of wolves in sheep's clothing and let me tell you, they are not all "charismatic".

Has anyone ever noticed when someone becomes obsessed by a particular sin they sometimes fall by that same sin....it's not the first time it's happened and we're all hypocrites and sinners anyway. The only difference between us and this man is the grace of God.

As someone who has lived around addicts and who literally watched people buy drugs on a daily basis and sell sex a few years ago, I must tell you that people don't buy meth out of curiousity. They may buy marijuana if they are curious but dealers will give you meth once or twice to get you hooked to the drug. If this dude was buying, chances are he was not a first time customer. I do not doubt that this guy who is making these allegations is a liar. I seriously doubt that this preacher visited him once a month for 3 years using meth each time and having sex only then. Addicts cannot control themselves that well. Meth and other drugs will make a straught man do strange things. I've seen it happen with my own eyes. There is more to this story than either side is letting on and we need to all be on our knees right now and pray for this man, his accuser, and the pastor's wife and kids and his church. I am of the belief that the accuser has embellished his story though and that the pastor is not telling all that really happened. (He is probably ashamed though.)

We're going to step out in faith. We have had some major hitches in this plan but God will make a way. I think that He's making me slow down so we do the whole thing in His time so it all works out just right. (Please keep praying) I've been w/o internet for 4 days until today, so no reply until now.

Thank you for that bit if advice. I do know my husband and I are to adopt. It's the when that has gotten to me. Is it these children? Is it now? We both want to expand our family this way and feel that is the Lord's will. I guess in the excitement and desperation of the moments and worrying over things I'm rushing and trying to arrange this MYSELF without waiting for direction. I know he'll make things fall into place when it's time.

Everytime you hear trick or treat or happy halloween, just say God bless you or "dios te bendiga". (God bless you in spanish.) If someone asks why you say that, tell them you're a Christian and that you don't celebrate Halloween but that you do want God to bless them. No use in being confrontational.

*sighing in agreement* God does not give you patience...He teaches you patience. (& it's usually a very hard lesson)

I had 2 other things happen to me today. I went to a restaurant and saw a picture of the girls after I wished I had a picture of the girls and came upon another sign re: adoption on a fast food restaurant sign. The suspense is really building for me.

http://www.churchofvirus.org/index.html http://churchofspongebob.tripod.com/home.html http://www.venganza.org/ (church of the flying spaghetti monster) Choose to worship Yoda as your new God http://www.petitiononline.com/yodagod/petition.html These people touting google.com as god are just wacko copycats. Don't even give them a second thought.

I guess I've lived my life impatiently. I've never been able to wait on people very well and get so mad when people take too long making decisions. BOY am I ever having to learn how to wait for Him lately. I have to keep telling myself that this is good and I need to wait on Him because He is in control instead of running off half cocked and forcing people to move or get mowed down. I am often feeling like a child having to eat a dinner of liver and spinach in order to get a piece of delicious chocolate pie. Anyone else have this problem?

I don't know how many times I got mad and wanted to leave my church. Most of my problems were stupid and petty. Some were true issues. I'm glad I haven't left though or my walk with the Lord would be alot worse for it. I would not have learned things I needed to learn and have all those imperfect people who tick me off to pray for me when I need it. They're like family. They make me mad sometimes but I care about everyone there.

This is the enemy's way of destroying you and the young man and your husband. This way he can take all 3 of you out and your kids in one blow. Have you thought of a temporary seperation from your husband? Who cares what the elders think! Go on a spiritual retreat and get into a fellowship of other believers, preferably women. You are wounded in your relationship. The after your retreat speak with your husband. You need to cleave to each other and this man will have to go.

First of all you need to have fellowship with other believers and you have to worship together if you want to grow spiritually. If you're looking for the perfect church, you'll never find it and people in my church have made me mad plenty. I don't always agree with them either but they are my family.

try visiting http://www.ripoffreport.com and doing a search for their name. you can also google their name under scam and their business name.

I've been mulling over adoption recently, specifically 3 children who have experienced great tragedy. Even before this event I've felt the call on my heart each time with a confirmation in scripture like a sermon on the spirit of adoption and things people say that I just thought about. Even my husband is in agreement. (WOW, I was surprised) I was about to throw in the towel and try to push and pray that this other very well to do couple adopt the kids because I want them to have the best life possible. I thought I was being silly and that I was not listening to God's will but my own selfish desires. (YES! I want to be a mommy again, I feel like my family is not complete) Anyway a sermon came on talking about doing God's will in spite of impossible circumstances and about a lady who confidently did God's will, even when it seemed impossible and when it was dangerous. (Deborah in the Bible) Okay, good sermon. This convicts me that I want to do God's will no matter what. I'm still ready to throw in the towel absolutely though. I am figuring that it HAS to be God's will for me to NOT adopt these kids right now because I am not good enough. I'm still feeling tremendous love inside me for these kids and their mother whom I did meet and know and even their father who shot the mom and baby. (This one HAS to be God's doing because people that hurt kids make me mad...I was glad he was caught though.) However I got a mailing in today regarding adoption at the moment my resolve to not pursue adoption was at it's strongest. It was from an agency I hadn't communicated with for over a year. They sent me a notice on special needs and sibling adoptions and the process. Every time I get ready to lay this down something happens and I am so afraid of trying to make it happen myself. I only want what God wants. I want to do His will and not make a mistake. There are potiential barriers to this adoption for us but not impossible. Do I sound like I'm trying to make this happen? What do I do to make 100% sure that I am not following my own desires?