BigJer

Lots of interesting facts in the link. I learned a lot and the message contains a lot of good truth. One question that bothers me is this. In the passage, there is a strong message of abiding in Christ. no less than five times the word "abide" is used, yet the following message does not contain this one word at all. Not a critique at all, just an observation.

I believe that God is still guiding His people through these dreams and visions. It isn't more revelation or more scripture. It is a matter of keeping His people in line with His will. I REALLY don't think that people that have dreams and visions are more spiritual. Sometimes it is due to their stubbornness that God has to give visions and dreams. I have had them. Some impressive and some not so impressive but the point is taken nonetheless. Some were in answer to my prayers requests. Some were to warn me of the direction I was going. I am just a bit stubborn, so I need these things to keep me in line.

I have been blessed by many versions of scripture. I agree that the NKJV is a good option.

I saw a sign that read this: IF YOU WANT TO ATTRACT A CROWD, START A FIGHT It is my theory that some of us (not just on this board, but generally on most discussion boards) are begging for attention from someone. The quickest way to do this is to start a board fight. It may not be the best way to get attention, but it works nonetheless. Others just like to argue. They live for a good fight. They say they are fighting for God so they can justify it. Maybe their life at home is crumby. Maybe they can't get out like they would like. I know this isn't the case with most, so please don't start your own personal disclaimer on this thread on my response. Just ask if you are one of these. If you really are not, fine. If it strikes true in your case, just repent and confess it and go on. Most of us just like to talk about our thoughts and scriptures on different matters.

Yep. There are many like you out there. Others want to know what type of people someone is before they'll go to their church too.

Ah, you don't suppose that witnessing could include offering fellowship? Or should I just tell someone "Jesus" and then walk away? Everyone needs ongoing relationships with other people, to help them find - and then stay faithful to - God. The world has plenty of lone rangers already. They need to be taught. Encouraged. Held accountable. Just like anyone else. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I did not exclude the invitation to church. "More than" is the key phrase I used. People want to know us before they'll say yes to an invitation. Some must know Jesus first before going to church. That is why witnessing is a vital part of our relationship with those who don't know God personally. They need to experience the fellowship, ongoing relationships, encouragement... before they'll come to church. Many outside of those 4 walls called church see an invitation to church as a selfish wish of church goers. They must be convinced you care before they'll care about coming. We must go out of our way to reach these people. It isn't either/or all are needed.

http://www.lifeaction.org/Articles/viewart...sp?id=114114528 Great article! I enjoy many of life actions articles!

Thumbnail sketch of Job. Job is afflicted. His friends come and claim he sinned. Job says he didn't. They say he did. He says he didn't. A young man comes along and says they are all wrong. etc. etc. God asked, "Job, who do you think you are anyway?" Job repents of his bad attitude and is restored.

While inviting them to church is important... we must pray. It is a spiritual battle. We must use prayer. Many will not come to church, but prayer can loosen their stubbornness. In addition, we need to be witnessing more than inviting.

Yeah, that's why everyone is in such agreement and understanding of who the beast is. Not! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I too would like to see who the beast is. Sure would solve all mystery, wouldn't it?

I'll believe it when I see it blink. I've stared at it for 5 minutes and it hasn't yet. Just kidding of course. It is a beautiful picture. The wonders of creation!

Thanks! On the subject. Watch and Pray. Those are the major instructions. Whether the number is 666 or 616, or for that matter, any number, or a computer chip---- it won't go on my forehead or hand. Whether the AC comes from Rome, Germany, Iraq, or even the USA. I will not bow down to anyone that claims to be Jesus Christ, or some other form of deity. Will we be here when he shows up? I hope not, but will prepare for the possibility.

Cool that's like being cousins.

I clicked "other" === Wesleyan

Looks like some of our end-times zealots will have some reformulating to do... <{POST_SNAPBACK}>