Wonderboy

Yes, Mystery Babylon is the false church but... May I suggest that the woman in Revelation chapter 12 is Israel. The 12 stars with the sun and moon go back to the dreams of Joseph in Genesis thus identifying the woman. The child she brings forth is the Messiah. The dragon is, of course, Satan. Catholics say the woman is Mary but fail to explain, if Mary, how she is cursed with original sin (traveled in birth) as they claim otherwise. Many Christians think the woman is the Church but it was not the Church that brought forth Jesus, it was Jesus that founded His Church. No, my friends, the woman in Revelation 12 is Israel who brought forth the Messiah. Yes I've read this interpretation of the woman in the desert before. The thing that throws me off this interpretation is the fact that its a woman which we recognise as a church and not a nation. This interpretation does make sense though, I will read more about it. If your interpretation is correct, would the woman in the desert represent the 144 000 survivors of the invasion of Israel mentioned in Rev.? Sorry to throw this off topic.

Maybe not very theological, but appropriate!!

Probably the same thing Moses and the Israelites did..........have nothing but the shirts on our backs, and depend upon God for everything! Because I've believed from the Scriptures, that this IS POSSIBLE TO DO! In His Love, Suzanne Absolutely!!! Just think, when the mark of the beast arrives and if we're still around, everything we as Christains - what we have held onto in faith, the Word of God, the feeling of the Holy Spirit, the creation of the universe, the great flood, the truth of our Lord Jesus Christ - everything at that very moment would have been confirmed, even to the world - but sadly many will be too blind or too scared to face the truth.

Right, I know what you mean. I usually think long and hard before I type anything so that I don't come off as a total idiot or offend anyone.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? I'm gonna have to work on that.... Whatcha mean, Grunge?

Plastic dolls, thats what we'd evolve into, plastic dolls. Michael Jackson is the first. The only way man will evolve is if he has to do it himself. We're crazy.

GOD BLESS YOU, WELL SAID!!!!!

WHOA! ??? That sounds better!

Seems to fit

NICE ONE!

Which one? Never heard of him. Billy Connley is a Scottish comedian who acted in a movie called "The man who sued God" I never saw it though. What does this idiot senator expect from this anyway? Lets just say for a minute that he 'won' his case does he expect the disasters will just stop?

Courts and Jails For Dummies.

No, Secularist, I'm not against progression nor scientific knowledge at all. These are a great importance to man, but it depends what man does with such knowledge. Will he use it for good or evil? But this would be another thread on its own. Where did you see that in my post? I'm not condemning anyone to hell, I haven't the right nor authority to do so. My statement comes from my belief in the authority of the Word of my Lord God Almighty and is in reference to the statement that some of the American Founding Fathers believed in Jesus Christ but not his deity. As a Christian, not believing in Jesus' deity would render His Word useless, and as worthy and flawed as the next man's. If this would be the case then how could one believe in His promise of salvation through His death and resurrection?

I'm not American, but what I have read on the internet (how reliable is that?) about some of the founders of America, is that some belonged to Freemasonry which apparently does not have the greatest reputation and dabbles in the occult. Now honestly I have no idea how true this is for one and secondly I have no idea how many founders were involved in Freemasonry. But judging from what I have read, if any of the men on your list, Gettin' In Tune, were involved with Freemasonry odds are they weren't true Christians. Thus yes they'd be punished.....yes.....in hell. Thats the way I see it, but I'm open to correction because I don't live in the US.