Matthitjah Posted June 15, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted June 15, 2009 An interesting perspective on this: http://blogs.cbn.com/jerusalemdateline/arc...bis-speech.aspx He's right. President Obama's policies, which refuse to deal with reality, are bringing more Polarization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Israel is the national state of the Jewish people. But the leaders of the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 It benefits the Palestinians to reject history before 70AD. They seem to forget the fact that for thousand of years prior, the land was Israels. They were forced to flee for their lives by the Roman empire. After they fled, the Palestinians moved in and this is the beginning of the time line they refer to, as if the Jewish nation never existed before 1948. I question the sanity of people who are harping on what happened nearly 2000 years ago.....muslims all seem to live in the past. Maybe that's why there's very little progress to note in muslim countries....for the past 1400 years! Then you question my sanity since I brought this up? History is a valuable reminder of what was, a tool to learn from. History proves that the land the Muslims call theirs is not theirs, or am I missing your point all together? Here is something from what Netanyahu said, and reported by HERB KEINON: Netanyahu wants demilitarized PA state He did not tackle the issue of a Palestinian state, or the settlement issue, until well into his remarks, and until after he corrected the impression Obama left with his Cairo address on June 4, that Israel was the product of the Holocaust, and not the result of a timeless Jewish connection to the Land of Israel. The connection between the Jewish people and the Land of Israel goes back more than 3,500 years, the prime minister said. "This is the land of our forefathers. "The right of the Jewish people to a state in the Land of Israel does not derive from the catastrophes that have plagued our people," he said. "True, for 2,000 years the Jewish people suffered expulsions, pogroms, blood libels and massacres which culminated in a Holocaust - a suffering which has no parallel in human history. "There are those who say that if the Holocaust had not occurred, the State of Israel would never have been established. But I say that if the State of Israel would have been established earlier, the Holocaust would not have occurred." Netanyahu, clearly relating to Obama's narrative in the Cairo speech, said the Jews' right to a sovereign state in Israel "arises from one simple fact: this is the homeland of the Jewish people, this is where our identity was forged." She is referring to the sanity of the Muslims who live in the past, it would appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 muslims all seem to live in the past. Maybe that's why there's very little progress to note in muslim countries....for the past 1400 years! That is just one more reason they hate Israel. Israel is a living reproach to Islam's inability to adapt to the 21st Century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hupo Posted June 17, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,055 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/19/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/12/1944 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I have no idea what they will do (the P's) ... but I just cannot see them being very happy right now... Who are the P's? The old PLO? The Hamas? The Islamic Jihad? El-qaida maybe? Even if we succeed in making some kind of "peace" with one group, will that stop the others from continuing with their violence? There is too much fundamental Islam going around for peace to be a reality A good reason to trust in God and not in Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botz Posted June 18, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,492 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 191 Days Won: 18 Joined: 03/29/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 18, 2009 I think Bibi understands that the Western powers just do not understand Middle-Eastern politics, history or social interaction and is using their ignorance to do exactly what he feels is right to protect and strengthen his country.... On the one hand he talks appeasement and welcomes a two-state solution...'Western powers give standing ovation'...on the other he says before this happens the Pals must comply with certain basic requirements....which to the West seem eminently reasonable, but to the Islamists the world over... are an impossibility...non-kosher pigs will first take to the air before this happens....so Netanyahu is able to appease the West with their silly 'road-map to peace' and do what is best for his country...that's high level diplomacy at it's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hupo Posted June 18, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,055 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/19/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/12/1944 Share Posted June 18, 2009 We actually do have something in common with the Palestinians We all love Humus!! Listen, you got to start somewhere, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted June 18, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.74 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.84 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 We all love Humus!! Speak for yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hupo Posted June 18, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,055 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/19/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/12/1944 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Oh no! and here I was, believing we have a great new "road map" through our stomachs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted June 18, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted June 18, 2009 Isn't Humus that stuff you spread over your garden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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