Song of Songs

[GodPreciousChild]

The romance expressed in Song of Songs is so beautiful. Clearly the two lovers thought the other one was so beautiful and couldnt wait to see each other, etc. Does such romance exist:

Man and woman meet. Fall madly in love. Man woos woman. Proposes. They marry. They have two kids , live happily ever after , and are still in love. Does this really ever happen?

[BrandonL]

Yep. It happens as long as you follow God's leading. That is what He wants for us, after all. He has chosen the perfect mate for each of us, and He is faithful to show us that person, as long we are waiting for His guidance. Even if you marry the "wrong" person, God can still make it work. It may not be as smooth and easy as it could have been, but it can still work. Again, the key is to just stay focused on Christ. When two people have a common goal, they will grow closer to that goal as they grow closer to each other. Likewise, they will also grow closer to each other as they grow closer to the goal. It's inevitable. Just follow Him!

[Deepblue]

Yep. It happens as long as you follow God's leading. That is what He wants for us, after all. He has chosen the perfect mate for each of us, and He is faithful to show us that person, as long we are waiting for His guidance. Even if you marry the "wrong" person, God can still make it work. It may not be as smooth and easy as it could have been, but it can still work. Again, the key is to just stay focused on Christ. When two people have a common goal, they will grow closer to that goal as they grow closer to each other. Likewise, they will also grow closer to each other as they grow closer to the goal. It's inevitable. Just follow Him!

Right. So if someone focuses on getting in a perfect relationship more than focusing on Christ, then they aren't focused on what they should be focusing on, and could ruin their chances? And do you think some people meant to be single?

[mead]

Stay true in your walk with the Father. He already knows the desire in your heart for your wants and needs. Put Him first, everything else falls in to place. Sometimes people get excited and rush things only to be hurt in the end. If it is ordained from above it will be. Patience.

[BrandonL]

Right. So if someone focuses on getting in a perfect relationship more than focusing on Christ, then they aren't focused on what they should be focusing on, and could ruin their chances? And do you think some people meant to be single?

That's right. Don't forget that there is no "perfect relationship." Premarital counseling is always a good idea, but no matter how hard you work on it before hand, you're always going to go into a marriage with problems. That's just life. I've known couples that dated for many years prior to getting married, and they still struggled with the same problems as everyone else. We're all human. We're all sinners. That's all there is to it. That is why it's so important for us to have Christ as the focal point of our relationship. It's not a matter of what we should be doing according to some set of rules or principles arbitrarily drafted by God to control our lives. It's a matter of God wanting the best for us and giving us the tools to make it as easy as possible for us, if that makes any sense. The "dos" and "don'ts" are there for a real, practical purpose. They protect us and keep us where we need to be - with our eyes on Him.

As far as it ruining their chances? Well that's not so black and white. Remember that God can work "all things" together for good, not just some things, not even just most things. I can tell you thousands of stories in my life of God taking my mistakes and making them His victories. God works in our lives to glorify Himself. I believe He relishes in turning our mistakes into things that He can use for His glory. Those things cause us to keep our focus on Him and His grace, for one thing. They also humble us and remind us that we are sinners in need of a savior. And that is where God wants us to always be. In the good times and the bad times, His primary concern is that we rely on Him. Beyond that, everything else is basically fluff. And it's really amazing what happens when we begin to rely on Him more. We make fewer mistakes. We sin less. We enjoy life more. That is the basic purpose of God's intent for our lives. The greater our faith and reliance upon Him, the less of us there is in the picture. The result of that is a more fulfilled, and fulfilling, life.

So making mistakes or marrying the "wrong" person isn't the end of everything. Forgetting to keep Christ as the center of the relationship isn't either. We serve an amazingly merciful God who gives second chances to our second chances to our second chances. It is never too late to start a new life with Him at the center, or to renew a life that had Him at the center and then wandered away.

Yes, some people are meant to be single. Although I believe that is very rare. I do know, however, that God has an express and detailed purpose for every person on this planet, and when we chase our calling, He reveals it to us beyond any doubt. If you are meant to be single, then I believe God will make that clear to you. I also believe He will give you peace with it.

[Deepblue]

Right. So if someone focuses on getting in a perfect relationship more than focusing on Christ, then they aren't focused on what they should be focusing on, and could ruin their chances? And do you think some people meant to be single?

That's right. Don't forget that there is no "perfect relationship." Premarital counseling is always a good idea, but no matter how hard you work on it before hand, you're always going to go into a marriage with problems. That's just life. I've known couples that dated for many years prior to getting married, and they still struggled with the same problems as everyone else. We're all human. We're all sinners. That's all there is to it. That is why it's so important for us to have Christ as the focal point of our relationship. It's not a matter of what we should be doing according to some set of rules or principles arbitrarily drafted by God to control our lives. It's a matter of God wanting the best for us and giving us the tools to make it as easy as possible for us, if that makes any sense. The "dos" and "don'ts" are there for a real, practical purpose. They protect us and keep us where we need to be - with our eyes on Him.

As far as it ruining their chances? Well that's not so black and white. Remember that God can work "all things" together for good, not just some things, not even just most things. I can tell you thousands of stories in my life of God taking my mistakes and making them His victories. God works in our lives to glorify Himself. I believe He relishes in turning our mistakes into things that He can use for His glory. Those things cause us to keep our focus on Him and His grace, for one thing. They also humble us and remind us that we are sinners in need of a savior. And that is where God wants us to always be. In the good times and the bad times, His primary concern is that we rely on Him. Beyond that, everything else is basically fluff. And it's really amazing what happens when we begin to rely on Him more. We make fewer mistakes. We sin less. We enjoy life more. That is the basic purpose of God's intent for our lives. The greater our faith and reliance upon Him, the less of us there is in the picture. The result of that is a more fulfilled, and fulfilling, life.

So making mistakes or marrying the "wrong" person isn't the end of everything. Forgetting to keep Christ as the center of the relationship isn't either. We serve an amazingly merciful God who gives second chances to our second chances to our second chances. It is never too late to start a new life with Him at the center, or to renew a life that had Him at the center and then wandered away.

Yes, some people are meant to be single. Although I believe that is very rare. I do know, however, that God has an express and detailed purpose for every person on this planet, and when we chase our calling, He reveals it to us beyond any doubt. If you are meant to be single, then I believe God will make that clear to you. I also believe He will give you peace with it.

Excellent post. Thanks.

[BrandonL]

The romance expressed in Song of Songs is so beautiful. Clearly the two lovers thought the other one was so beautiful and couldnt wait to see each other, etc. Does such romance exist:

Man and woman meet. Fall madly in love. Man woos woman. Proposes. They marry. They have two kids , live happily ever after , and are still in love. Does this really ver happen?

Yep. I am married with 3 kids (2 are grown) and totally in love with my husband as he is with me.

P.S. The Song of Songs is about Israel.

It is about Israel. It's also about the Church. It's also about love and relationships.

[Openly Curious]

'GodPreciousChild' date='Aug 24 2009,

The romance expressed in Song of Songs is so beautiful. Clearly the two lovers thought the other one was so beautiful and couldnt wait to see each other, etc. Does such romance exist:

Man and woman meet. Fall madly in love. Man woos woman. Proposes. They marry. They have two kids , live happily ever after , and are still in love. Does this really ever happen?

Hey 'GodPreciousChild'

The book of Songs of Solomon is a great story some disagree on what the book is referring too whether it is the love between a husband and wife or the great love between Christ and his love for the Church the bride of Christ.

As for me I believe it to be the great love of God that his only Son came to this earth leaving all the splendar of heaven to buy us back from the blackness of sin. Christ came to earth and layed down his life for the Bride of Christ.

Ephesians 5:25--Husbands, love your wives, even Christ also loved the church and gave himself for it. Ephesians 5

John 3:29--He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.

Matthew 9:15, 25:1 -- John 2:9,

The physical love that is shared between husband and wife if they love each other the one that is away, the other spouse cannot wait to be in the presence of the other. When we are dating in our teens for awhile then, fall in love with their boy/girl friend and they cannot stay away from one another, on the phone forever. They can't stay away from one another as it seems everything else around them is almost non-existence they are romanceing each other. But you've probably heard this analogy before.

As far as your question goes that kind of romance/love potrayed in the Songs of Solomon that is so beautiful as you said, my answer is most defiantly. Yes, that type of romance/ love does indeed exist.

Your other question you asked, Yes, men and women, still date, fall in love, the man and woman talks about getting married, the man proposes, they get married, have kids, or don't have kids for what ever reason. Romance and love hasn't left this world but the un-believers do not know of the love of Christ.

When I look around today as I'm sure you have also done one can't help if that love is still around as there is no commit and it is still growing worse as time passes. The story of Jacob and Rachel in Genesis is good to read and meditate as well as ponder it show both commitment and hardships they faced and remained together.

For God has shed his love abroad in our hearts.

I'm glad you are in a commited relationship and have 3 children living happily ever after

You are correct the Song of Solomn is a relationship with Israel.

And it is, such a joy knowing my name has been written down in the lambs book of life.

Romans 8:15--For ye have "NOT" received the spirit of bondage "AGAIN " to fear; "BUT" ye have "RECIEVED THE SPIRIT OF ADOPTION, WHEREBY WE CRY, ABBA, FATHER." [capitals are only from joy.]

Ephesians 2:11-21-------These verses tells how we were Gentiles in the flesh born into another nation except the Jewish nation Israel. The circumcision passage is Israel the Jewish people. The uncircumsion refers to all Gentile nations. Through the coming of Christ to earth shedding his blood for both Gentiles and Israel as he shed his blood for the world and now through the spirit God has made both one into the body of Christ the church,the adoption of all the Gentile nations the believers and the Jewish people who become a believer.

We have been adopted into the family of God whereby we cry, abba Father. Abba Father, is not to be taken lightly once you've comprehended the great priveledge that we have been given through Christ. Being an adopted Jew our Heavenly Father takes us and makes us one of his children just like the children of Israel. The same God of Israel who parted the Red Sea has adopted us and now we can cry, Abba Father which is due all respect in light of what the only begotten Son of God did for us to give us that right to call him Abba Father.

[sorry if to long I just got into it a bit]

Blessings

oc