Seeker100 Posted January 24, 2010 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 137 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted January 24, 2010 The Bible is a collection of books and letters and religious writings that have been written over the course of many 100's of years. This book is hands down, the most read book, and by far the most influential in human history. At one time it was a crime to have this book in one's posession, in one's one native language. At one time the penalty of of such an act was to burnt alive. The Church of the day enforced these rules. Many people however in their zeal to make the bible available to the masses defied the laws about translating and distributing the bible in peoples' native tonques. Many of these people paid the ultimate price. Men like Hus, Wycliffe and many others must never be forgotten. We must never take for granted our bibles, in our homes, libraries and book stores, as they did not get there without a severe struggle. What is so unique about this book? This book is an amazing book. It is a book that shows many things. The book shows God's active work to unite man to Himself. The book also shows how man can become united with God and in so doing become his true self and have the light of life! The book also has the most significant historical event that has ever happened on this earth. God has become a human, walked our earth, was rejected, crucified and rose from the dead. It is the ultimate historical event between God and man. The bible thus contains the words of life. It contains the way man can become whole with His creator. This book however is written in a special way. It is not written to be understood with eyes of the flesh. Many words can have many meanings, thus totally changing what the interpreter's message of what the bible says. Thus there are many interpretations of the bible and many of these interpretations are for purposes that are not good. Many of these interpretations are deceitfully accepted as they promise people life without actually having to obey God's voice. Thus even though the bible shows us how we can have life, many who are not spiritual use the bible to continue in their own spiritual death. The bible is true but it must be read properly or it becomes a tool of the devil. We are not alone in this world. None of us are alone. God is with us all and He wants to gift us the gift, of Himself. He is here to give us life, joy and meaning. He is here to give us love. We must always obey His voice in our work, our relationships, our understanding of reality and our reading of the bible. Let's all obey God's voice when we read the bible so that its message of life can be revealed. Praise the Lord!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 24, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 24, 2010 Here is some very fundamental verses that tells us about the Helper, the author of scripture and its application, and how we are to walk in the Spirit. Every one of us who are His are in a different place in our walk. Some more mature, some less mature, but we all are in a place where He is teaching us, forever changing our mind to be more like His and our heart into a heart of flesh. Sometimes, as He works in our lives, He prunes away that which causes death in us, branches of our lives that bare bad or no fruit. These can be painful times, but He has told us "For whom the LORD loves He corrects, Just as a father the son in whom he delights." As in all things, there is a perfect balance. We need to find this balance and live in it. We are to love one another as He loved us, but this love also corrects errors. Remain open to His word, to the love of those who come to you with concerns and questions. With His strength, stand straight and remain honest, answering every question asked in truth. Do not hide behind crafty words meant to sidestep an issue, but be strong and give an answer to every question by means of His words, not our own. Back your beliefs with scripture so it can be weighted properly in its context. John 14:15-31 Jesus Promises Another Helper "If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 24, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 24, 2010 Mike, there is a difference in what I say and what Seeker is saying. Can you see it? Isaiah 55:11 So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, but it shall accomplish what I please, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer1997 Posted January 24, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,363 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 9 Joined: 11/07/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted January 24, 2010 The Bible is a collection of books and letters and religious writings that have been written over the course of many 100's of years. This book is hands down, the most read book, and by far the most influential in human history. At one time it was a crime to have this book in one's posession, in one's one native language. At one time the penalty of of such an act was to burnt alive. The Church of the day enforced these rules. Many people however in their zeal to make the bible available to the masses defied the laws about translating and distributing the bible in peoples' native tonques. Many of these people paid the ultimate price. Men like Hus, Wycliffe and many others must never be forgotten. We must never take for granted our bibles, in our homes, libraries and book stores, as they did not get there without a severe struggle. What is so unique about this book? This book is an amazing book. It is a book that shows many things. The book shows God's active work to unite man to Himself. The book also shows how man can become united with God and in so doing become his true self and have the light of life! The book also has the most significant historical event that has ever happened on this earth. God has become a human, walked our earth, was rejected, crucified and rose from the dead. It is the ultimate historical event between God and man. The bible thus contains the words of life. It contains the way man can become whole with His creator. This book however is written in a special way. It is not written to be understood with eyes of the flesh. Many words can have many meanings, thus totally changing what the interpreter's message of what the bible says. Thus there are many interpretations of the bible and many of these interpretations are for purposes that are not good. Many of these interpretations are deceitfully accepted as they promise people life without actually having to obey God's voice. Thus even though the bible shows us how we can have life, many who are not spiritual use the bible to continue in their own spiritual death. The bible is true but it must be read properly or it becomes a tool of the devil. We are not alone in this world. None of us are alone. God is with us all and He wants to gift us the gift, of Himself. He is here to give us life, joy and meaning. He is here to give us love. We must always obey His voice in our work, our relationships, our understanding of reality and our reading of the bible. Let's all obey God's voice when we read the bible so that its message of life can be revealed. Praise the Lord!! How odd - this very same post was posted on a site called CARM.org - did you post it there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted January 24, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Our only problem today is knowing how to use them in subordination to God's Holy Spirit who, in reality and in contrast to Catholicism's Sacred Magesterium, is the only source that can infallibly convert written words into the Living Word of God. I am all for listening to the Holy Spirit. However, by what standard do you determine which though, insight, vision, whatever is actually from the Holy Spirit? How many cults and false teaching have been and are around based on what people believe they heard from the Holy Spirit? (And yes, several genuinely do believe it was the Holy Spirit.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 24, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 24, 2010 Sis, can you provide a link? I would be interested in reading it in its fullness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer1997 Posted January 24, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,363 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 9 Joined: 11/07/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted January 24, 2010 Sis, can you provide a link? I would be interested in reading it in its fullness. I will PM you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted January 24, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I found it: http://forums.carm.org/v/showthread.php?p=5796687 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer1997 Posted January 24, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,363 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 9 Joined: 11/07/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted January 24, 2010 I found it: http://forums.carm.org/v/showthread.php?p=5796687 Yes, but it doesn't let you in..... unless you go to CARM.org and then you can't navigate very far.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker100 Posted January 24, 2010 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 137 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/2009 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 Mike, there is a difference in what I say and what Seeker is saying. Can you see it? Isaiah 55:11 So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, but it shall accomplish what I please, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it. I am trying to see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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