Blien Posted February 18, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 346 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,050 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/02/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/26/1982 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Amazing, please watch! http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?abbr=tv_...news_iv_ctrl=-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki1 Posted February 19, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,260 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted February 19, 2010 Amazing, please watch! http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?abbr=tv_...news_iv_ctrl=-1 Blessings, Blien Thank you for posting this. Joel Richardson has come up with the idea, which is biblically supported, that the A/C will come from an Islamic country in the Middle East. He doesn't go into it in the video indepth, but I highly recommend Joel Richardson's teachings because he has thoroughly done his research in what he teaches. I have been reading the teachings of Joel Richardson on the web for over a year now, and he is right on IMO. After doing my own study of this Gog character spoken of in Ezekiel 38, who is A/C, Son of man, set thy face against God, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesey against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blien Posted February 20, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 346 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,050 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/02/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/26/1982 Author Share Posted February 20, 2010 Thanks Nikki, I think he's dead-on in what I've heard already. Does he really say Tubal is Turkey? I've always thought of Mesheck and Tubal as Russia. Mesheck being Moscow which is directly north from Israel and Tubal being Tobolsk the capital of Sibera (in russia). Which of his books do you recommend?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki1 Posted February 21, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,260 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted February 21, 2010 Thanks Nikki, I think he's dead-on in what I've heard already. Does he really say Tubal is Turkey? I've always thought of Mesheck and Tubal as Russia. Mesheck being Moscow which is directly north from Israel and Tubal being Tobolsk the capital of Sibera (in russia). Which of his books do you recommend?? Blessings, Blien After reading some of Joel Richardson's and his associates writings, I did my own research and it is my conclusion at this point that Tubal is in the same area as present day Turkey. Maps don't lie. Take a good look at the maps I provided in my previous post and compare with ancient past Persian empire to present day Middle East. You have to remember that at the time the prophet Ezekiel wrote his prophecies, Russia was not even heard of or on the map. In Ezekiel's time frame, directly to the north of Israel would have been Syria, Turkey, and Iraq even though they were not independept nations at the time Ezekiel wrote the prophecies of Chaper 38 & 39. I cannot remember if it was Joel Richardson or one of his associates who suggested the beast empire would involve these Middle Eastern countries, (as well as others.) I would have to go back and read the articles. I've always thought of Mesheck and Tubal as Russia That has been the past evangelical school of thought, but Joel Richardson, his associates and some others are beginning to see these prophecies from Daniel in a different light, which line up more accurately with the Word of God in their and my opinion. This is not to say that Mr. Richardson does not have those evangelical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel joseph Posted February 21, 2010 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 18 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted February 21, 2010 Hi All Yes Joel Richardson's material is excellent indeed. I would just like to add one little aspect. The revived Roman Empire should actually be called the revised empire. Daniel's image / statue has two legs, the western empire and the eastern empire, both are the then Roman Empire. If you look at a map of the old Roman Empire it includes Turkey and the northern parts of Iran, which are north of Israel. So its more acurate to say that the antichrist will come from one of the nations of revised Rome. This will most probably be Turkey, which is in line for EU membership now. I'm currently working on an edition for The Prophetic Scroll on this topic. It should be up within days. Regards Joel Joseph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraught Posted February 21, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,741 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/23/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/30/1959 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Amazing, please watch! http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?abbr=tv_...news_iv_ctrl=-1 Thanks Blien. I found it enlightening. not surprising to me, since i am already familiar with the works of Walid Shoebat and am fervently supportive of this view of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizzdy Posted February 21, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,911 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 10 Joined: 03/21/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted February 21, 2010 After reading some of Joel Richardson's and his associates writings, I did my own research and it is my conclusion at this point that Tubal is in the same area as present day Turkey. Maps don't lie. Take a good look at the maps I provided in my previous post and compare with ancient past Persian empire to present day Middle East. You have to remember that at the time the prophet Ezekiel wrote his prophecies, Russia was not even heard of or on the map. In Ezekiel's time frame, directly to the north of Israel would have been Syria, Turkey, and Iraq even though they were not independept nations at the time Ezekiel wrote the prophecies of Chaper 38 & 39. I cannot remember if it was Joel Richardson or one of his associates who suggested the beast empire would involve these Middle Eastern countries, (as well as others.) I would have to go back and read the articles. Joel's Trumpet Someone else who sees what north of Israel looks like! Some time ago I started seeing Turkey as a major player, read Psa. 83 and felt this was next, etc. etc. About that time came along Walid Shoebat, a few others and then Richardson hit the airwaves. Shoebat believes that islam is the grasshoppers who are raised by the one who comes out of the pit who eventually come against Israel in the Gog/Magog war, its been sometime since I have listened to him so I may be off on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Durnan Posted February 23, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,782 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 23, 2010 Yes, I see Iran & Iraq as possible nations out of which antichrist may indeed rise. They both constitute the eastern leg of the old Roman Empire as seen in Daniel 2 statue, a leg which outlasted the wrstern leg by hundeds of years. North of Israel would fit these nations precisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki1 Posted February 23, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,260 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted February 23, 2010 Yes, I see Iran & Iraq as possible nations out of which antichrist may indeed rise. They both constitute the eastern leg of the old Roman Empire as seen in Daniel 2 statue, a leg which outlasted the wrstern leg by hundeds of years. North of Israel would fit these nations precisely. Blessings, Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyguy Posted February 23, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 373 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,331 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 71 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/1965 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Well, it makes sense in that Muslims will listen to a fellow Muslim leader who suggests that the Jews be allowed to rebuild the Temple on the Temple Mount. But I've always heard the Antichrist will come from Western Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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