House of israel

[Guest kelly]

Could someone please tell me who is included in the phrase the House of Israel?

[godrulz]

Specific Scriptures for context please...

[Guest kelly]

There are numerous references in the Bible to the House of Israel ex. 2 Samuel 1:12, 6:5 and Amos 5:1,3,5 to just name a few.  My exact question is who all in todays world would be considered in the House of Israel?  Any help you can offer would be appreciated.

Thank you very much!

[godrulz]

I think the vast weight of evidence and consensus of O.T. scholars (and Jews) would be that these are historical references and prophecies about the O.T. nation of Israel, the people of God, the Jews. The kingdom of Israel was divided into Israel and Judah at some point.

You may be able to say modern Jewish people (religious?) are of the house of Israel (?), but I would not be looking for a modern fulfillment of most of these references. In CONTEXT, they are references to the O.T. nation and people of God (Israel). Perhaps nothing more, and nothing less. We would have to allegorize to make it refer to anyone else than Jews or ancient Israel (B.C.).

[Guest kelly]

Thank you!

[Guest Waldans Mountain]

Hi Kelly

The tribe of Judah are the Jews. Ten tribes were scattered around the world. I dont think you could put your finger on the remnant of those people and point them out.Deut.30 gives much detail about the scattered tribes and how they will be gathered in the last days.

DEUT.30  [1] And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,[2] And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;[3] That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.[4] If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:[5] And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.[6] And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.[7] And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.[8] And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day

In that day HE will bring HIS people(in the twinkling of an eye)to the land promised them. Then the covenant spoken of in Hebrews 8 will take affect as God will then write HIS commandments in our hearts.

[Guest kelly]

Would I be correct in assuming then that perphaps their are people who are of the House of Israel, and subject to the Biblical promises, who are perhaps not even aware of it?

[Guest JRT]

In Ot only the nation of Israel was concidered the House of Israel! Also called the Elect! (GOD chose first)

JESUS (belonged to the house of Israel) who is the Son of GOD and is the only true vine of whom we draw our substance!

All those who are the branches whether origional (of house of Israel who accepted GRACE) or grafted in (Gentiles who accepted GRACE) are now the house of Israel. No difference between Jew and Gentile in GOD'S eyes anymore!

Not two seperate grape vines olive trees only one!

Now we are all called the house of Israel! Also called the Elect!

[Guest Waldans Mountain]

Hi Kelly

Yea, i suppose

I found this scripture concerning HIS Holy Mountain. It implies that even if you are not of the House of Israel, if you obey HIM, you will be brought to His Holy Mountain. Thats where the 1000 yr period of rest will be.

ISAIAH 56  [6] Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name

of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

[7] Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer:

[Guest kelly]

Thank you all for your replies.  You have been most helpful!