Knight Posted November 14, 2002 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 123 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/07/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2002 This issue can be addressed through a study of Romans 9. Romans 9 NASB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brother Ben Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Are we chosen as in selected from among the multitudes by the Lord? OR do we in our freewill choose the Lord? First off i would like to point out that you are in reality trying to ask two questions that you are considering as one. One relates to being born again and one relates to those in the ministry who are in reality disciples of Christ. The answer in both cases is yes . How can this be? There is eternal life for all who will reconize Jesus Christ as Lord. This is where our freewill enters in. They are the sheep spoken of by the Lord. Secondly there are those that are called into the ministry by the Lord as were the early disciples of Christ. Thier two primary goals should be! One. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. II Timothy 2-15 Two. To feed the sheep as disciples of Christ. He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. John 21:17 Luke 6:13 And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles. Jesus chooses whom He calls into the ministry. I hope that this will answer your questions. Brother Ben Selah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsth Posted November 24, 2002 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 297 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 5,586 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 193 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/09/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted November 24, 2002 Thank you very much for your post, Brother Ben. In His Love, Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted November 24, 2002 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted November 24, 2002 John 6 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 44)So John is saying here that no man can come to the Father until the father sends his message via his disciples to that person to accept. Are we not given the order to preach the WORD to ALL MEN (45) Yes and they shall ALL be taught but they must have both heard and learned now everyone will hear but only those that have faith and accept will learn of the Father. All Praise The Ancient Of Days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanakila Posted November 24, 2002 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 400 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted November 24, 2002 Amen Adstar. God is willing that none should perish, but that ALL would come to repentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work in Progress Posted December 1, 2002 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,111 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 35 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/29/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2002 Are you saying that we are ALL chosen but that many reject the calling? That is impossible. Yes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tigershark Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 If I may interject here. If the Calvinst are correct then this planet and what happens here are a sick joke, dervived from a twisted mind. To place intelligent self aware being in a tough place tell them there are options for betterment, and remove those options is simply warped. So what we are saying is that God decided way in advance who would be redeamed and who would not be redeamed. If this is what I am hearing correctly, then there is no place for one such as I with this God, nor whould I want such a place. Does this Make me "one of the hell bound, satan loving, heathen"? Well, celebrate in heaven for those of us forgotten, and not by accident appearantly, just don't make me sick by calling God "just" in such a case. for I can prove otherwise, with out the bible. "Eat, drink and be marry for tomarrow we die" no regards Tigershark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C.D. Light Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 God has chosen all of us for His kingdom and has provided a way for this to be--He desires for all to have eternal life with him. He has foreknowledge of who will answer His call however. suzie--What about "many are called, but few are chosen"? That doesnt sound like he has chosen all. cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tigershark Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Are you saying that we are ALL chosen but that many reject the calling? That is impossible. Yes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted December 4, 2002 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted December 4, 2002 calvinism Is a strong doctrine. I have never been able to sway any of it's adherents away from it They have their select quotes from the bible that they hold on to like a rottweiller ??? sad but true. Hope it isn't something that keeps them from eternity. All Praise The Ancient Of Days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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