Guest man Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Here's something else to consider. With peoples fascination with religious icons, do you really believe Jesus would show Himself to someone who could quite possibly duplicate His likeness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinCP Posted April 21, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 21 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2011 i truely believe that unless possessed by demons all children are in jesus's likeness, and i believe there is a very good chance that jesus spoke to him and blessed him, and that all the what about's are beyond our own understanding, and i can assume that now at the age of 12 colton is probably being told to his face that he is a lie, and its sad, because when someone knows that they love god and and others who 'love god' try to tear his poor confused heart apart by telling him hes a lie, what kind of an effect will that have on his faith, and in the eye of god were dispicable for challenging wether or not a childs heartis in the ritplace. you all remind me of those who spit on jesus an called him a false prophet on his way to the cros as he cried to god theyknow not what they do. who are any of us to say that boy is not with christ, when he has only proclaimed his love forjsus, shame on all of you. my heart aches fo him, because no scholar of the bible can begin to understand what REAL truth is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinCP Posted April 21, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 21 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2011 our job as christians is to encourage love not tear it apart, noone seems to be openminded that there might be pieces to the puzzle missing, and i believe Jesus would want us for that reason to give them the benefit of the doubt. in the book the father was aware tht ceratain things according to the bible didnt make s he admits that, but Christ shown through his son to the point where it was undeniable that the four yr old was serious and that he was telling the truth, there are things we may not know. i truely do believe in the living word, but i also believe that there shud be no idols above Christ himself, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinCP Posted April 21, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 21 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2011 personaly, my faith goes beyond just the word it goes as far as knowing that there is a heaven and a hell and God. i learned to pray because the bible taught me to, but i continue to pray because i believe there is someone on the other side listtening, the word teaches us but that truth becomes alivve in me and then i walk by faith not by the proof in the wordbecauseit lives in me, and as much contradiction as there is in this iss thee isjust as much hypocracy as far as what kind of christians we are expected to live as, god calls us to be like him in heart but that doesnt give usteright to be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 i truely believe that unless possessed by demons all children are in jesus's likeness, and i believe there is a very good chance that jesus spoke to him and blessed him, and that all the what about's are beyond our own understanding, and i can assume that now at the age of 12 colton is probably being told to his face that he is a lie, and its sad, because when someone knows that they love god and and others who 'love god' try to tear his poor confused heart apart by telling him hes a lie, what kind of an effect will that have on his faith, and in the eye of god were dispicable for challenging wether or not a childs heartis in the ritplace. you all remind me of those who spit on jesus an called him a false prophet on his way to the cros as he cried to god theyknow not what they do. who are any of us to say that boy is not with christ, when he has only proclaimed his love forjsus, shame on all of you. my heart aches fo him, because no scholar of the bible can begin to understand what REAL truth is What kind of effect will this have on others if this is nothing more than an over active imagination and we start proclaiming it to be the truth? What does the Word say about misleading people where the truth is concerned? our job as christians is to encourage love not tear it apart, noone seems to be openminded that there might be pieces to the puzzle missing, and i believe Jesus would want us for that reason to give them the benefit of the doubt. in the book the father was aware tht ceratain things according to the bible didnt make s he admits that, but Christ shown through his son to the point where it was undeniable that the four yr old was serious and that he was telling the truth, there are things we may not know. i truely do believe in the living word, but i also believe that there shud be no idols above Christ himself, I for one, do not believe there are pieces missing. Everything we need is contained within the Word. personaly, my faith goes beyond just the word it goes as far as knowing that there is a heaven and a hell and God. i learned to pray because the bible taught me to, but i continue to pray because i believe there is someone on the other side listtening, the word teaches us but that truth becomes alivve in me and then i walk by faith not by the proof in the wordbecauseit lives in me, and as much contradiction as there is in this iss thee isjust as much hypocracy as far as what kind of christians we are expected to live as, god calls us to be like him in heart but that doesnt give usteright to be him. No one here is trying to be God. The Word tells us to test the spirits and that's what is happening right now. If you have scripture to back this child's story, please post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted April 21, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 The boy did not write the story but a pastor of a congregation. Some people who do not take time to read the Bible but will purchase the book and because of it is a pastor/minister that is writing it will accept it and not look for the truth. It is so subtly that the emergent church comes.The truth is lost in the voice of a child. What happens to the gospel? You would read an account of an adult who had that same experience and denounce it but because it is a child it is acceptable. Why not look at the same information with the same eyes - child and adult. Lest you say I say this is emergent - that is not what I am saying. I just say that how easily one can accept the other. Remember, this is a pastor writing . I am sure he, the child has seen pictures in a child's Bible of the appearance of Christ. The way artists have always depicted Him. Does that mean we accept it because it was from a child? or would you accept those same words from an adult? The point I was trying to make is this. Often when we are first saved, in those first few days, when we know what freedom is, and our lungs feel like they are filled with helium, and we are floating, and we feel that we can conquer the world, and miracles are accepted fact, and we Love, often, the world, in the form of a "seasoned" believer, is the first to cast doubt in our minds. Not the world, another believer. Then the world steps in, and we start seeing not through the eyes of a child, but through the glass dimly. We then strap the gospel to our backs, instead of carrying it in our hearts. How do I know this from personal experience? Because I venture into areas of Africa that the World has not yet reached. And where people see Jesus through the eyes of a child. Faith is not in doubt, it is a given. And I see miracles. I am going to Mozambique with South (her first time), next week, and I don't hope to see miracles. I expect them. The world, in the case of the examination by this "book reveiwer', and others, will destroy this child, because the gospel weighs heavy on them. And is not in their hearts. Fez, I have seen too many miracles in my life to ever begin to deny a miracle. I have seen them and give God the glory. This, however, I question because it is told by the father and the son /father is saying things that are not in the Bible. That is our only source off truth. Whether a child experiences it or an adult are we not to question when we see things that are not rock solid Biblical? That is our gold standard. Do you say because it is told by a child it is accurate? Some parts may be but not all. I have read other accounts of life after death told by Maurice Rawlings who is an MD and questioned people of their experiences right after they came too. But I question the father's motives also. What about Kubler- Ross? or any of the others? Miracles Yes I can accept. This is questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted April 21, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Test yes I agree. But don't you think to some agree the world has also made us cynical? Hey, even some of the churches we attend make us cynical. I am the first to admit there is a fine line to be drawn, and we must be careful not to fall ether side of it. But I also know that the God I serve is capable of anything, and His signs, wonders and messages to us did not stop with the bible. I mean how sad would it be if this were the case. The bible is the Word, yes, and it is truth yes. But I believe there is more, much more, not yet revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldust59 Posted April 21, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 989 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 01/08/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/13/1959 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Test yes I agree. But don't you think to some agree the world has also made us cynical? Hey, even some of the churches we attend make us cynical. I am the first to admit there is a fine line to be drawn, and we must be careful not to fall ether side of it. But I also know that the God I serve is capable of anything, and His signs, wonders and messages to us did not stop with the bible. I mean how sad would it be if this were the case. The bible is the Word, yes, and it is truth yes. But I believe there is more, much more, not yet revealed. I agree Fez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Press Forward Posted April 21, 2011 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 186 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/25/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2011 If you have scripture to back this child's story, please post it. Jesus looked at them and said, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted April 21, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,418 Content Per Day: 8.00 Reputation: 21,575 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Online Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted April 21, 2011 personaly, my faith goes beyond just the word it goes as far as knowing that there is a heaven and a hell and God. i learned to pray because the bible taught me to, but i continue to pray because i believe there is someone on the other side listtening, the word teaches us but that truth becomes alivve in me and then i walk by faith not by the proof in the wordbecauseit lives in me, and as much contradiction as there is in this iss thee isjust as much hypocracy as far as what kind of christians we are expected to live as, god calls us to be like him in heart but that doesnt give usteright to be him. 1. my faith goes beyond just the word Rom 10:17 17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. NKJV Acts 15:7-9 7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, 9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. NKJV John 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. NKJV 2. the word teaches us but that truth becomes alivve in me and then i walk by faith not by the proof in the wordbecauseit lives in me James 1:18 18 Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures. NKJV John 20:30-31 30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name. NKJV 1 Peter 1:23-25 23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever, 24 because "All flesh is as grass, And all the glory of man as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, And its flower falls away, 25 But the word of the Lord endures forever." Now this is the word which by the gospel was preached to you. NKJV Matt 4:4 4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'" NKJV Love Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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