artsylady Posted November 23, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 171 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,813 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 23, 2011 Great work! Along those lines, I came across this awhile back and had it on my favorites for later reference (If the need arose) You may want to write on this as well. These are just a few people who wish they had not had sexual reassignment surgery. I'm sure you can google to find more, but it's not common knowledge that people go through this and change their minds. http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Warning.html I think we need to let the world know that we have compassion for these kinds of people (and gay people) and that this may kind of compulsion may not feel like a choice, but it is not something we are born with either. People are born with all kinds of compulsions they feel they were 'born with' - to be gay, to want to change genders, even to cut off their own limbs (called "Body Integrity Disorder") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voiceof1 Posted December 22, 2011 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 12 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/21/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted December 22, 2011 Homosexuality is against The Law (Leviticus 18:22). Christ made it perfectly clear that The Law (found in the first five books of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) IS STILL IN EFFECT TODAY, and will be FOREVER (Matthew 5:17-18). So this really shouldn't be a difficult issue. We ought to obey God and His Perfect Law ONLY (Acts 5:29) just as we have been Commanded to do for our own individual and collective benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted December 22, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Homosexuality is against The Law (Leviticus 18:22). Christ made it perfectly clear that The Law (found in the first five books of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) IS STILL IN EFFECT TODAY, and will be FOREVER (Matthew 5:17-18). So this really shouldn't be a difficult issue. We ought to obey God and His Perfect Law ONLY (Acts 5:29) just as we have been Commanded to do for our own individual and collective benefit. Would you care to elucidate on what you mean by "against the law" as opposed to it being a sin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizzdy Posted December 23, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,911 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 10 Joined: 03/21/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted December 23, 2011 Homosexuality is against The Law (Leviticus 18:22). Christ made it perfectly clear that The Law (found in the first five books of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) IS STILL IN EFFECT TODAY, and will be FOREVER (Matthew 5:17-18). So this really shouldn't be a difficult issue. We ought to obey God and His Perfect Law ONLY (Acts 5:29) just as we have been Commanded to do for our own individual and collective benefit. Would you care to elucidate on what you mean by "against the law" as opposed to it being a sin? Isn't it a sin if its against the commandments? Sin is the transgression of the law, 1 John 3:4. God says its wrong, we find that in the instructions He left us. But not sure if thats what you are asking about. shalom, Mizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylor30 Posted February 9, 2012 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 382 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 96 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/31/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2012 Homosexuality is a sin warned and condemned about over a DOZEN timin scripture. Let us not spit in God's face by saying something HE called an ABOMINATION is now somehow ok. I will admit it is hard when other christians and even churches fall into the political correctness trap, but we MUST take a stand. It is ssa the sins of adultery and fornication have become accepted. Lets not make the same mistake with Homosexuality. On a final note, I personally have seen violence by gays simply because they were disagreed with. Gays are VERY violent, and are NOT the innocvictims hollywood and the media would have you believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizzdy Posted February 10, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,911 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 10 Joined: 03/21/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2012 I think that is something many Christians are upset about; they want either a theocracy or special treatment for Christianity. If Christianity doesn't get that special treatment than the law is somehow anti-Christian. Just something I've noticed; to give Christianity special rights and privileges is fair, but to treat it like every other religion is taboo. Not all Christians are like this though, but there's enough out there. I don't know why anyone would want to build a society around a theocracy. Any time that happens you seem to end up with a society that is killing people because they didn't follow "the law". When that theocracy is not headed by God and His rules yes it becomes all about men, greed and all things associated with man. When Messiah returns we will be living under a 'theocracy' a righteous ruler will be in place and all will live peacefully under Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizzdy Posted February 10, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,911 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 10 Joined: 03/21/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2012 When that theocracy is not headed by God and His rules yes it becomes all about men, greed and all things associated with man. When Messiah returns we will be living under a 'theocracy' a righteous ruler will be in place and all will live peacefully under Him. This is just my viewpoint, but even the theocracy that the Israelites lived under was not one that I would hold in high regard. I would never want to bash someone to death with stones because they weren't a virgin on their wedding night. This was given to the Israelites by God correct? Any theocracy is "bad" in my book. Yes and no, Israel was to set itself apart from the others and live under the rules God gave, and if people were following those rules there wouldnt be any problems. But mans heart is not bent towards God is it? we make the choice to believe and walk in faith and still we mess up. If you find where anyone was actually stoned in scriptures let me know, theres a few instances where we read it might happen, the adulterous woman comes to mind, but off hand I cannot remember one instance of anyone being stoned besides the guy in the exodus. And that guy was outright defying God but we also see that Moses had to go to God to find out what to do. No one bashes a woman who may not be a virgin but cancel the wedding, we see that in the example of Joesph and Mary, he wasn't going to stone her but leave her. If everyone lived according to Gods ways even on this earth theres still no way this worlds going to be ok its going to take Him coming again to set up His govt, His rules and all with a changed heart to live correctly. I personally would not want to live under a theocracy without Yeshua as the King. shalom, Mizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valoran Posted February 10, 2012 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 200 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yes and no, Israel was to set itself apart from the others and live under the rules God gave, and if people were following those rules there wouldnt be any problems. You're aware that that line of reasoning is the exact same one used by every fascist government in the history of mankind... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizzdy Posted February 10, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,911 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 10 Joined: 03/21/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yes and no, Israel was to set itself apart from the others and live under the rules God gave, and if people were following those rules there wouldnt be any problems. You're aware that that line of reasoning is the exact same one used by every fascist government in the history of mankind... right? Oh for heavens sakes! We are talking about His rules not a fascist ruler as well as living under Gods reign and not mans. And as I wrote man cannot be left to rule themselves, man cannot rule himself or others well at all at least not for any length of time and yes we see that in fascist, socialistic, even within a republic as America is and was supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valoran Posted February 10, 2012 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 200 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2012 Oh for heavens sakes! We are talking about His rules not a fascist ruler as well as living under Gods reign and not mans. And as I wrote man cannot be left to rule themselves, man cannot rule himself or others well at all at least not for any length of time and yes we see that in fascist, socialistic, even within a republic as America is and was supposed to be. The point was that "if you guys follow the rules, everything's gonna be just peachy" doesn't really excuse harsh and arbitrary laws, nor do those harsh and arbitrary laws coming from God instead of man make them any easier more pleasant to live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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