Christians have no right to wear a cross to work?

[Guest]

How do you stop people who freely chose to have their disputes regulated by a religious court?

That is not a freedom we are afforded in the US.

It clearly is as such institutions exist and have existed since at least the 19th century. Longer in fact as groups such as the Amish have chosen to live seperately from others in society enforcing their own internal rules and punishing by exclusion those who don't conform.

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[taylor30]

It's about freedom of religion, and it's about a lack of tolerance. Sure, in many ways crosses have become nothing more than a piece of jewelry. However, there are those for whom it has significance.

More often than not, the same ones who make a fuss about a decorative cross around a person's neck are likewise those that tell Christians to be more tolerant of other's beliefs and lifestyles.

This is most definitely a spiritual war.

It may be technically in the constitution, but freedom of religion doesn't REALLY exist anymore ( unless your muslim ).

[taylor30]

If this is just civil stuff they are settling, with both parties willing, how is it different to what we see in 1 Cor 6?

I agree. If BOTH parties agree to it, there should be no problem. As long as they are NOT FORCING others who don't hold to those beliefs to submit to religious courts. 1 COR is a great example of GOD himself telling us NOT to take eachother to unbelievers courts and that we should settle matters ourselves.

[taylor30]

So then muslims cannot wear their hats or scarves. Hindus cannot wear their turbans. No red dots on their foreheads. Catholics cannot have ashes on their forheads on good friday. What about atheists and the fact that they wear nothing. I may find it offensive and claim that the government is forcing me to join. The problem is that we are supposed to have a separate government from church and but the government is invading the church.

Its quite ironic. If there is a cross around the atheists claim thats an endorsement of religion. But if the cross is removed and nothing is there, that's an endorsement of the RELIGION of athiesm. No matter what, SOMETHING will be endorsed.

[AnotherSinner]

So then muslims cannot wear their hats or scarves. Hindus cannot wear their turbans. No red dots on their foreheads. Catholics cannot have ashes on their forheads on good friday. What about atheists and the fact that they wear nothing. I may find it offensive and claim that the government is forcing me to join. The problem is that we are supposed to have a separate government from church and but the government is invading the church.

Its quite ironic. If there is a cross around the atheists claim thats an endorsement of religion. But if the cross is removed and nothing is there, that's an endorsement of the RELIGION of athiesm. No matter what, SOMETHING will be endorsed.

Very true....there is simply just no pleasing everyone.

[Mark2005]

People have more important things to worry about than what sort of jewelry a co-worker is wearing. Where does it stop? T-shirts with messages, etc.? C'mon, people.

[Guest]

People have more important things to worry about than what sort of jewelry a co-worker is wearing. Where does it stop? T-shirts with messages, etc.? C'mon, people....

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[Angelmiss49]

I see no problem with restricting the adorning of jewelry in a working environment, if the restrictions are based on safety issues but to say that one can't wear a crucifix but allow others to have necklaces with charms etc is wrong.

Gary

I have no problem with people wearing a Cross at work. If somebody wears a neclklace with a trinket with an animal etc, then somebody should be able to wear a necklace with a Cross.

[AnotherSinner]

I see no problem with restricting the adorning of jewelry in a working environment, if the restrictions are based on safety issues but to say that one can't wear a crucifix but allow others to have necklaces with charms etc is wrong.

Gary

I have no problem with people wearing a Cross at work. If somebody wears a neclklace with a trinket with an animal etc, then somebody should be able to wear a necklace with a Cross.

I would understand if it were all necklaces and a health risk. Much like some work places do with rings of all natures due to the risk provided that they might get caught in something and risk loss of limb.

The cross being a matter of offense should be no worse than someone being allowed to wear an anarchy symbol. If there is no issue there...Jesus or anything remembering Him should not present itself to be one either.

[brightmorningstar]

But there is no argument.

Firstly

"People have more important things to worry about than what sort of jewelry a co-worker is wearing. Where does it stop? T-shirts with messages, etc.? C'mon, people. "

Is this true? The workers who wear the cross have a more important thing to think about, Jesus Christ, and the ones who want to stop them wearing the cross obviously do not have more imporatant things to think about.

But it breaches human rights to prevent a worker from wearing the cross providing it isnt a danger with machinary etc. The UN Declaration of Human Rights article 18 protects freedom of religious expression.

We have some people in authority who have lost the plot. In the name of equality, inequality is enforced, and in the name of Human Rights, Human rights are abused.