Columbine

[ollkiller]

Whatever about possession of handguns do ye think that semi automatic guns should be sold to the general public. Unless your in a war I can't see any reason to own one.

[The_Patriot21]

I think you hit the nail on the head there oll, unless your in a war. The second amendment wasnt provided to give us protection againt burglers, it was protection against the government, just in case it turns to tyranny and the need arises again for another revolution. And you can't go to war, without the guns to do it.

The real question here is, what is wrong with semi-automatic weapons such as the AR-15? A gun is not evil. A gun is not dangerous. regardless of what kind of action it is, a gun can only do 2 things-function, or fail. People kill people, not guns.

[Guest ninhao]

Anyone know that more people were killed in America by hammer last year than by guns? Are we to outlaw these too?

Hello 1Peterlight,

I have read this claim many times in the recent past ( with a smile ). The hammer to gun ratio is concerning rifles only.

For instance in 2011 there were 8583 gun murder victims which included 323 rifle cases. Hammers etc were used in 496 murder instances.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-11

FYI

[The_Patriot21]

Most murders in the US, are commited using weapons of opportunity-knives, hammers, blunt instruments. Just sayin. Mainly, because a lot of murders arnt premeditated.

[Guest ninhao]

Most murders in the US, are commited using weapons of opportunity-knives, hammers, blunt instruments. Just sayin. Mainly, because a lot of murders arnt premeditated.

Hello Pat,

This FBI website lists total murders in USA in 2011 as 12,664.

Of these 8,583 were gun related which leaves 4,081 for all other weapons or methods. This indicates guns are responsible for 67% of all murders in 2011 and therefore the most used tool in murder.

http://www.fbi.gov/a...e-data-table-11

Are these figures incorrect ?

[Guest]

Whatever about possession of handguns do ye think that semi automatic guns should be sold to the general public. Unless your in a war I can't see any reason to own one....

Cars

In 2011, 32,310 people died in motor vehicle crashes, down 1.7 percent from 2010, according to the U.S. Department of Transportation. In 2010, 32,885 people died in motor vehicle crashes and an additional 2,243,000 people were injured. http://www.rmiia.org..._of_crashes.asp

Too?

Murder Victims by Weapon, 2006–2010

(In 2010 8,775 Died From Firearms ~ Joe) http://www.fbi.gov/a.../10shrtbl08.xls

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Is It Reason?

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. http://www.archives....transcript.html

Or Is It Treason?

In spite of extensive recent discussion and much legislative action with respect to regulation of the purchase, possession, and transportation of firearms, as well as proposals to substantially curtail ownership of firearms, there is no definitive resolution by the courts of just what right the Second Amendment protects. The opposing theories, perhaps oversimplified, are an “individual rights” thesis whereby individuals are protected in ownership, possession, and transportation, and a “states’ rights” thesis whereby it is said the purpose of the clause is to protect the States in their authority to maintain formal, organized militia units. Whatever the Amendment may mean, it is a bar only to federal action, not extending to state or private restraints. The Supreme Court has given effect to the dependent clause of the Amendment in the only case in which it has tested a congressional enactment against the constitutional prohibition, seeming to affirm individual protection but only in the context of the maintenance of a militia or other such public force. ...

And In Whom

Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. Jeremiah 17:5

Should A Body Trust?

Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is. Jeremiah 17:7

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On A Personal Note: The Trouble With Those Anti-Islamophobia Lawyers

Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:

That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it!

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Isaiah 5:18-21

Is That They Are Calling Islam's Followers, Liars

Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. Daniel 7:23

And God's Watchmen, Fools

The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Zechariah 12:1-3

May God Have Mercy On Their Souls

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Amen~!

[Guest ninhao]

Cars

In 2011, 32,310 people died in motor vehicle crashes, down 1.7 percent from 2010, according to the U.S. Department of Transportation. In 2010, 32,885 people died in motor vehicle crashes and an additional 2,243,000 people were injured. http://www.rmiia.org..._of_crashes.asp

Too?

Murder Victims by Weapon, 2006–2010

(In 2010 8,775 Died From Firearms ~ Joe) http://www.fbi.gov/a.../10shrtbl08.xls

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Hello FresnoJoe,

The 32,310 motor vehicle deaths in 2011 is not exclusively murders.

The 2010 figure of 8,775 firearm deaths is exclusively murders.

What is the correlation here ?

[Guest]

What is the correlation here ?

Death

[Guest ninhao]

What is the correlation here ?

Death

Being consistent and without misrepresentation possibly you should list all firearm deaths including accidental and justifiable homicide.

Otherwise, the data is propaganda.

[Guest]

Otherwise, the data is propaganda....

Yes Dear One, Yes It Is

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. http://www.archives....transcript.html