Guest Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 How can whatever "message" America spreads be taken seriously by others who see a country who is the number one purveyor of pornography, supports infanticide, endorses gay marriage and is fiscally irresponsible? Because the message is not from Americans, it is delivered by Christians. Because we Christians of all nations, bring a message that is not clever human words but the very word of God. Because the message is not understood by the mind of the recipient, because of his/her wisdom, but because the Spirit of God Himself, draws them, and enables them to understand and accept what He is saying to them. Any who reject the message on the grounds that Amercans are immoral hypocrites, are not rejecting Americans, they are rejecting God Himself, and would do so if the Apostle Paul himself gave them the message. If they die still rejecting Him, they will not be able to say to God: "I rejected You because I only heard Your message from Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted July 6, 2013 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 105 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/06/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/08/1952 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) (edited) Abortion is another person's choice to make - NOT mine, NOT yours, and NOT the governments. I hate to tell you this because you don't seem to have gotten the message but homosexuality is NOT a choice for the vast majority of homosexuals. They were born that way - and YES - in the United States of America, they are entitled to EVERY benefit that every other American is entitled to. I for one, would HATE to live in a theocracy. Oh and by the way - the VAST majority of the words and examples of Jesus Christ, regarding social issues, ARE liberal. So - YES - I'm a liberal because He was - and unlike most people who claim to follow Him, I TRY to follow HIs words and NOT the words that I WANT Him to say. Edited July 7, 2013 by ~candice~ editing out inappropriate comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted July 6, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) (edited) Abortion is another person's choice to make - NOT mine, NOT yours, and NOT the governments. I hate to tell you this because you don't seem to have gotten the message but homosexuality is NOT a choice for the vast majority of homosexuals. They were born that way - and YES - in the United States of America, they are entitled to EVERY benefit that every other American is entitled to. I for one, would HATE to live in a theocracy. Oh and by the way - the VAST majority of the words and examples of Jesus Christ, regarding social issues, ARE liberal. So - YES - I'm a liberal because He was - and unlike most people who claim to follow Him, I TRY to follow HIs words and NOT the words that I WANT Him to say. Unbelievable the blinders you have on! John 14:6 6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. NKJV You call this a liberal statement Love, Steven Edited July 7, 2013 by ~candice~ editing out inappropriate comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENOCH2010 Posted July 6, 2013 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1866 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) (edited) Abortion is another person's choice to make - NOT mine, NOT yours, and NOT the governments. I hate to tell you this because you don't seem to have gotten the message but homosexuality is NOT a choice for the vast majority of homosexuals. They were born that way - and YES - in the United States of America, they are entitled to EVERY benefit that every other American is entitled to. I for one, would HATE to live in a theocracy. Oh and by the way - the VAST majority of the words and examples of Jesus Christ, regarding social issues, ARE liberal. So - YES - I'm a liberal because He was - and unlike most people who claim to follow Him, I TRY to follow HIs words and NOT the words that I WANT Him to say. John, the 1000 year reign of Christ is going to be a theocracy. Edited July 7, 2013 by ~candice~ editing out inappropriate comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted July 6, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I see a shift in things, but I do not see anything that is truly different than other times in history. I think the biggest change is here in the US. It is my belief that God used the US to spread His word to the world in ways that no other nation could have. While we are not a "chosen people" like Israel, we were a tool used by God to spread the Gospel message. But while Christianity may be on the decline in the US it is thriving around the world, even against the things you speak of. How can whatever "message" America spreads be taken seriously by others who see a country who is the number one purveyor of pornography, supports infanticide, endorses gay marriage and is fiscally irresponsible? I think you're a little overly critical of your own country, Cobalt. Visit Europe and have your eyes opened. Things are WAY worse in other countries than here.....speaking on a Christian level. That's not to say we don't have a lot of problems; we do. But let's put it in perspective. Most other western countries consider us prudish Bible thumpers. This I believe is a subtle tactic of satan in these last days and increasing-> Whereby we have wrong everywhere and so we must choose the best of bad.... However God has presented us with another option- Col 3 Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki1 Posted July 26, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,260 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Abortion is another person's choice to make - NOT mine, NOT yours, and NOT the governments. I hate to tell you this because you don't seem to have gotten the message but homosexuality is NOT a choice for the vast majority of homosexuals. They were born that way - and YES - in the United States of America, they are entitled to EVERY benefit that every other American is entitled to. I for one, would HATE to live in a theocracy. Oh and by the way - the VAST majority of the words and examples of Jesus Christ, regarding social issues, ARE liberal. So - YES - I'm a liberal because He was - and unlike most people who claim to follow Him, I TRY to follow HIs words and NOT the words that I WANT Him to say. Abortion is not a choice. Abortion is one of the worst murders because it is a deliberate act of murdering the helpless and innocent of God's creations, and the guilty ones will suffer a worse punishment if they don't repent. "Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward" Psalm 127:3. If children are a heritage or reward of the LORD for the parents, that means deliberate murdering of the child destroys God-given rewards along with the child. Just because abortion is legal in America, does not change God's Word. "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but MY Words shall not pass away" Matthew 24:25 Anyone promoting abortion and endorsing it is just as guilty and an accessory to the crime and will answer to God for it, just as any criminal assists in murdering anyone in a civil society has to answer to the government authorities. And just because people do get away with murder these evil days, God knows their hearts and they too will answer to God one day. Nothing gets by God. That's something for you to think about. Homosexuals, like everyone else were born sinners because of the fall of Adam. And they have the same choice as every sinner to repent (to turn away from) their homosexual lifestyle and be delivered from their sin of homosexuality just as all sinners have to do with the grace and help of Jesus Christ who died for their sins on the cross. Homosexuals who choose to continue to live in a sinful life style by God's standards are denying Jesus' atonement on the cross for their sin and rebelling against Him. Like it or not, God has the last word, and that is also something for you to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loves G-d Posted August 23, 2013 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 23, 2013 a portion of the wall around the Al Aqsa Mosque has fallen, Muslims blaming the Jews of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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