PetriFB Posted August 14, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 175 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 263 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/02/1964 Share Posted August 14, 2013 In America Rochester's university has been made scientific studies and analysis led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, which claims that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology Review published a summary for this scientific study. When I researched this study, so on my mind arose many thoughts that prove this scientific study as the provocation of atheism in which they show their contempt to the certain group of the people. On my writing, I also bring out some thoughts about the article of Knoxnews. The whole article is in my site: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/religiouspeopleandatheists.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsukinoRei Posted August 14, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/02/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) Christians are always saying that the wisdom of man is folly, and it's better to be a fool for Christ. And that's it's easier to get into heaven with the mind of a little child. So why is it surprising that highly intelligent people who are driven to critical thinking find it harder to believe in religion, than people who have other strengths which do not include quite so powerful a drive to question everything? High IQ doesn't mean they're right about everything, it just means that it's really really much harder to accept something without fully understanding it. Edited August 14, 2013 by TsukinoRei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki1 Posted August 14, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,260 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2013 In America Rochester's university has been made scientific studies and analysis led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, which claims that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology Review published a summary for this scientific study. When I researched this study, so on my mind arose many thoughts that prove this scientific study as the provocation of atheism in which they show their contempt to the certain group of the people. On my writing, I also bring out some thoughts about the article of Knoxnews. The whole article is in my site: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/religiouspeopleandatheists.html Hello PetriFB Thank you for this news. I know the University of Rochester well. It is a very liberal University in New York State and its Hospital, the University of Rochester Medical Center, is number 5 in New York State as top hospitals. I have been employed by this university and can confirm that the entire institution, while an excellent higher school of learning when it comes to medicine, is very politically left oriented and receives many government research grants. So it doesn't surprise me that the institution takes this stand on intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetriFB Posted August 14, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 175 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 263 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/02/1964 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 In America Rochester's university has been made scientific studies and analysis led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, which claims that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology Review published a summary for this scientific study. When I researched this study, so on my mind arose many thoughts that prove this scientific study as the provocation of atheism in which they show their contempt to the certain group of the people. On my writing, I also bring out some thoughts about the article of Knoxnews. The whole article is in my site: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/religiouspeopleandatheists.html Hello PetriFB Thank you for this news. I know the University of Rochester well. It is a very liberal University in New York State and its Hospital, the University of Rochester Medical Center, is number 5 in New York State as top hospitals. I have been employed by this university and can confirm that the entire institution, while an excellent higher school of learning when it comes to medicine, is very politically left oriented and receives many government grants. So it doesn't surprise me that the institution takes this stand on intelligence. Thanks for feedback and encouraging words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Christians are always saying that the wisdom of man is folly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 14, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,997 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,694 Content Per Day: 11.66 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2013 A really bad study.It is a study done by satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsukinoRei Posted August 14, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/02/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2013 I still don't get what's wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted August 14, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.91 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Whether the research was valid or faulty, their interpretation was lousy. By academic standards, I am considered very intelligent. However, on the scale of practical know-how, common sense, I tend to be on the low side. My brother is the opposite - low on academic intelligence, high on the know-how, common sense intelligence. Our society places too much value on academic intelligence, as if we are somehow superior to the rest of society. Balony! I'm reminded of a scene from "Big Bang Theory" on TV. (I was at someone's house who had it on, so my understanding of the show is spotty. What I do know is that the 4 main characters are sterotypical geeks of the nerdy variety.) The four guys were in a car when the engine sputtered. The driver said, "Who knows something here about converter engines." [i believe he said converter.] The other three were like, "Yeah!", "Sure!" "Of course!" as if the question were a no-brainer. The driver then asked, "OK, who here knows how to fix a converter engine?" The other three were stumped. Being able to process knowledge and theory and calculations and the whole works is one thing. Being able to put the knowledge to use is another. So is being able to adapt to changing situations, being fexible with the recipe, and the like. We brainiacs have our place, but we'd be helpless without the rest of you who excel in other mental strengths. So there's the answer to the snobby attitude of superiority. But as for why those of higher "intelligence" - what I call "academic intelligence" - tend to be less religious is more likely because of the following, I believe. From studies I've read, it seems as if spiritual processing takes place in the right side of the brain. Academic intellects are strongly left-sided. Thus, it is harder for us to flow in the spirit, connect with the spiritual things, than people who work more out of their right brain. Best I can tell, most people, turn to God when they are at a place of brokeness, feeling "empty", and the like. Academically intelligent people tend to find their self-worth in their intelligence, trust what is rational and tested, and so on. Point being, it's harder to get us to a place of brokenness such that we are desperate for an answer outside of ourselves and rational thought. It's harder for us to take "a leap of faith". Anyway, I hope this makes sense to you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsukinoRei Posted August 14, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/02/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2013 Whether the research was valid or faulty, their interpretation was lousy. By academic standards, I am considered very intelligent. However, on the scale of practical know-how, common sense, I tend to be on the low side. My brother is the opposite - low on academic intelligence, high on the know-how, common sense intelligence. Our society places too much value on academic intelligence, as if we are somehow superior to the rest of society. Balony! I'm reminded of a scene from "Big Bang Theory" on TV. (I was at someone's house who had it on, so my understanding of the show is spotty. What I do know is that the 4 main characters are sterotypical geeks of the nerdy variety.) The four guys were in a car when the engine sputtered. The driver said, "Who knows something here about converter engines." [i believe he said converter.] The other three were like, "Yeah!", "Sure!" "Of course!" as if the question were a no-brainer. The driver then asked, "OK, who here knows how to fix a converter engine?" The other three were stumped. Being able to process knowledge and theory and calculations and the whole works is one thing. Being able to put the knowledge to use is another. So is being able to adapt to changing situations, being fexible with the recipe, and the like. We brainiacs have our place, but we'd be helpless without the rest of you who excel in other mental strengths. So there's the answer to the snobby attitude of superiority. But as for why those of higher "intelligence" - what I call "academic intelligence" - tend to be less religious is more likely because of the following, I believe. From studies I've read, it seems as if spiritual processing takes place in the right side of the brain. Academic intellects are strongly left-sided. Thus, it is harder for us to flow in the spirit, connect with the spiritual things, than people who work more out of their right brain. Best I can tell, most people, turn to God when they are at a place of brokeness, feeling "empty", and the like. Academically intelligent people tend to find their self-worth in their intelligence, trust what is rational and tested, and so on. Point being, it's harder to get us to a place of brokenness such that we are desperate for an answer outside of ourselves and rational thought. It's harder for us to take "a leap of faith". Anyway, I hope this makes sense to you all. That's a very insightful theory I think! I also agree that there are more kinds of intelligence than academic, that was one of the criticisms of the report and a valid one at that. People of higher academic intelligence, for example, tend to have lower social or emotional intelligence. Neuro-diversity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki1 Posted August 14, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,260 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 55 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2013 In America Rochester's university has been made scientific studies and analysis led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, which claims that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology Review published a summary for this scientific study. When I researched this study, so on my mind arose many thoughts that prove this scientific study as the provocation of atheism in which they show their contempt to the certain group of the people. On my writing, I also bring out some thoughts about the article of Knoxnews. The whole article is in my site: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/religiouspeopleandatheists.html Evidently, Professor Zuckerman's analysis didn't include all of the facts. A new study published in The Journal of College AdmissionHYPERLINK "http://i.bnet.com/blogs/homeschool.pdf" suggests that homeschool students enjoy higher ACT scores, grade point averages and graduation rates compared with other college students. The finding are especially interesting because there has been a paucity of research focused on how homeschooled students fare in college. Homeschooled students enjoys a larger percentage than any other, at 30%, which are homeschooled for religious purposes . So I would conclude Mr. Zuckerman's analysis is inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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