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just because He knows the outcome( not bound by space or time He IS where we have not yet arrived)does not mean He interfered with our choices.

 

So God creates people out of love, knows the outcome of their lives, knowing they're going to hell but does not interfere. Why? If you knew something bad was going to happen because of something you created, wouldn't you want to stop it from happening?

 

 

Still not seeing the bigger picture, are you?  God has given each person the ability to choose for themselves, even when it is very clear to Him how it will turn out.  If God intervened and forced someone to change, then the love He seeks is lost.  Only true love chooses what is right and is never forced onto anyone for true love cannot be forced.

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So God creates people out of love, knows the outcome of their lives, knowing they're going to hell but does not interfere. Why? If you knew something bad was going to happen because of something you created, wouldn't you want to stop it from happening?

 

Still not seeing the bigger picture, are you?  God has given each person the ability to choose for themselves, even when it is very clear to Him how it will turn out.  If God intervened and forced someone to change, then the love He seeks is lost.  Only true love chooses what is right and is never forced onto anyone for true love cannot be forced.

 

Blessings OneLight, focus on the knows, knowing and clear to him part of these sentences and not the free will end of it. Your thoughts.

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So God creates people out of love, knows the outcome of their lives, knowing they're going to hell but does not interfere. Why? If you knew something bad was going to happen because of something you created, wouldn't you want to stop it from happening?

 

Still not seeing the bigger picture, are you?  God has given each person the ability to choose for themselves, even when it is very clear to Him how it will turn out.  If God intervened and forced someone to change, then the love He seeks is lost.  Only true love chooses what is right and is never forced onto anyone for true love cannot be forced.

 

Blessings OneLight, focus on the knows, knowing and clear to him part of these sentences and not the free will end of it. Your thoughts.

 

 

You can't separate the two if you want to understand how God thinks because that is how He chose it to be.  Nobody will ever see the forest while looking at a few trees.  It can't be done unless you take it all in.

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So God creates people out of love, knows the outcome of their lives, knowing they're going to hell but does not interfere. Why? If you knew something bad was going to happen because of something you created, wouldn't you want to stop it from happening?

 

Still not seeing the bigger picture, are you?  God has given each person the ability to choose for themselves, even when it is very clear to Him how it will turn out.  If God intervened and forced someone to change, then the love He seeks is lost.  Only true love chooses what is right and is never forced onto anyone for true love cannot be forced.

 

Blessings OneLight, focus on the knows, knowing and clear to him part of these sentences and not the free will end of it. Your thoughts.

 

You can't separate the two if you want to understand how God thinks because that is how He chose it to be.  Nobody will ever see the forest while looking at a few trees.  It can't be done unless you take it all in.

 

THAT'S the answer I'm looking for. NOW you can close the thread. Blessings to all. :mgcheerful:

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Sure, I will close the thread with this last comment.

 

Gods love is not like our love.  His love does not have the bounds human love has.  Take life.  We say we love someone in this life, yet we sometimes do things that hurt them.  This makes us see Gods lack of involvement in the same way, even when He sent His Son to die a terrible death for us.  Some would see this a a hateful decision, the trade of His Sons life for ours, yet we accept His sacrifice in our place.  This would mean that we are just as hateful as some see God as, sending His only Son to die.  This is what happens when we try to figure out His love for us using the means of understanding derived our human understanding.

 

He allows us to make choices, even when He knows the choice is the wrong one.  He does this because only true love for God will allow us to be forgiven from judgment.  Only true love lasts forever and that is what He seeks from us.  If He became involved, He knows our our choice would not be from our own choosing, but from His interference.  This would be counter productive for the whole reason He made us.  He needs us to make the decision though our own heart and our free will.

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