LookingForAnswers Posted February 15, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2014 God created darkness in the same manner he created evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 God created darkness in the same manner he created evil Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. James 1:17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted February 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,347 Content Per Day: 7.99 Reputation: 21,542 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted February 16, 2014 God created darkness in the same manner he created evilto say evil is sourced in God 'IS' blaspheme to the highest levels!Isa 45:77 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace,and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.KJVThis is not evil as one would go to but that of calamity as God brought curse uponevil that was born out of satan! God 'IS' Holy and will not to look upon sin andin no way has any part in it's forming! That is satan's whole entire work and hasno part with God period... those who called God's work's that of satan as evil wasblaspheme of The Holy Spirit! All created entity was good and perfect! Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 16, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 16, 2014 God created darkness in the same manner he created evil to say evil is sourced in God 'IS' blaspheme to the highest levels!Isa 45:7 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. KJV This is not evil as one would go to but that of calamity as God brought curse upon evil that was born out of satan! God 'IS' Holy and will not to look upon sin and in no way has any part in it's forming! That is satan's whole entire work and has no part with God period... those who called God's work's that of satan as evil was blaspheme of The Holy Spirit! All created entity was good and perfect! Love, Steven I didnt say that evil is sourced in God, I pointed out that God created neither evil or darkness. There is a reason that darkness is often equated to evil in the Bible, they are neither created things but the absence of something. Evil is the absence of Goodness and darkness if the absence of light. To say that God created darkness is to at the same time attribute evil to God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch2021 Posted February 16, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,396 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1963 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I pointed out that God created neither evil or darkness. (Isaiah 45:7) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 16, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 16, 2014 I pointed out that God created neither evil or darkness. (Isaiah 45:7) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." I take it then you do not agree with the statement above...to say evil is sourced in God 'IS' blaspheme to the highest levels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DRS81 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I didnt say that evil is sourced in God, I pointed out that God created neither evil or darkness. There is a reason that darkness is often equated to evil in the Bible, they are neither created things but the absence of something. Evil is the absence of Goodness and darkness if the absence of light. To say that God created darkness is to at the same time attribute evil to God. Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. I form the light, and create darkness http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/isaiah-45-7.html Natural light, or that light which was produced at the first creation, and of which the sun is the fountain and source; or day which is light, and night which is darkness, the constant revolutions of which were formed, appointed, and are continued by the Lord, ( Genesis 1:3-5 ) ( 8:22 ) , moral light, or the light of nature, the rational understanding in man; spiritual light, or the light of grace, by which things spiritual and supernatural are known; the light of joy and comfort from Christ, the sun of righteousness; and the light of eternal glory and happiness: this is all from God, of his producing and giving; and so darkness is his creature; that natural darkness which was upon the face of the earth at the beginning; what arises from the absence of the sun, or is occasioned by the eclipses of it, or very black clouds; or any extraordinary darkness, such as was in Egypt; or deprivation of sight, blindness in men; and, in a figurative sense, ignorance and darkness that follow upon sin; judicial blindness, God gives men up and leaves them to; temporal afflictions and distresses, and everlasting punishment, which is blackness of darkness:I make peace, and create evil; peace between God and men is made by Christ, who is God over all; spiritual peace of conscience comes from God, through Christ, by the Spirit; eternal glory and happiness is of God, which saints enter into at death; peace among the saints themselves here, and with the men of the world; peace in churches, and in the world, God is the author of, even of all prosperity of every kind, which this word includes: "evil" is also from him; not the evil of sin; this is not to be found among the creatures God made; this is of men, though suffered by the Lord, and overruled by him for good: but the evil of punishment for sin, God's sore judgments, famine, pestilence, evil beasts, and the sword, or war, which latter may more especially be intended, as it is opposed to peace; this usually is the effect of sin; may be sometimes lawfully engaged in; whether on a good or bad foundation is permitted by God; moreover, all afflictions, adversities, and calamities, come under this name, and are of God; see ( Job 2:10 ) ( Amos 3:6 ) :I the Lord do all these things; and therefore must be the true God, and the one and only one. Kimchi, from Saadiah Gaon, observes, that this is said against those that assert two gods, the one good, and the other evil; whereas the Lord is the Maker of good and evil, and therefore must be above all; and it is worthy of observation, that the Persian Magi, before Zoroastres F13, held two first causes, the one light, or the good god, the author of all good; and the other darkness, or the evil god, the author of all evil; the one they called Oromazes, the other Arimanius; and, as Dr. Prideaux F14 observes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 16, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 16, 2014 I didnt say that evil is sourced in God, I pointed out that God created neither evil or darkness. There is a reason that darkness is often equated to evil in the Bible, they are neither created things but the absence of something. Evil is the absence of Goodness and darkness if the absence of light. To say that God created darkness is to at the same time attribute evil to God. Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. I form the light, and create darkness http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/isaiah-45-7.html Natural light, or that light which was produced at the first creation, and of which the sun is the fountain and source; or day which is light, and night which is darkness, the constant revolutions of which were formed, appointed, and are continued by the Lord, ( Genesis 1:3-5 ) ( 8:22 ) , moral light, or the light of nature, the rational understanding in man; spiritual light, or the light of grace, by which things spiritual and supernatural are known; the light of joy and comfort from Christ, the sun of righteousness; and the light of eternal glory and happiness: this is all from God, of his producing and giving; and so darkness is his creature; that natural darkness which was upon the face of the earth at the beginning; what arises from the absence of the sun, or is occasioned by the eclipses of it, or very black clouds; or any extraordinary darkness, such as was in Egypt; or deprivation of sight, blindness in men; and, in a figurative sense, ignorance and darkness that follow upon sin; judicial blindness, God gives men up and leaves them to; temporal afflictions and distresses, and everlasting punishment, which is blackness of darkness:I make peace, and create evil; peace between God and men is made by Christ, who is God over all; spiritual peace of conscience comes from God, through Christ, by the Spirit; eternal glory and happiness is of God, which saints enter into at death; peace among the saints themselves here, and with the men of the world; peace in churches, and in the world, God is the author of, even of all prosperity of every kind, which this word includes: "evil" is also from him; not the evil of sin; this is not to be found among the creatures God made; this is of men, though suffered by the Lord, and overruled by him for good: but the evil of punishment for sin, God's sore judgments, famine, pestilence, evil beasts, and the sword, or war, which latter may more especially be intended, as it is opposed to peace; this usually is the effect of sin; may be sometimes lawfully engaged in; whether on a good or bad foundation is permitted by God; moreover, all afflictions, adversities, and calamities, come under this name, and are of God; see ( Job 2:10 ) ( Amos 3:6 ) :I the Lord do all these things; and therefore must be the true God, and the one and only one. Kimchi, from Saadiah Gaon, observes, that this is said against those that assert two gods, the one good, and the other evil; whereas the Lord is the Maker of good and evil, and therefore must be above all; and it is worthy of observation, that the Persian Magi, before Zoroastres F13, held two first causes, the one light, or the good god, the author of all good; and the other darkness, or the evil god, the author of all evil; the one they called Oromazes, the other Arimanius; and, as Dr. Prideaux F14 observes, That is a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. I read that and I picture a person trying to sound smart without saying a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted February 16, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 16, 2014 I pointed out that God created neither evil or darkness. (Isaiah 45:7) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." might I suggest a quick read of this thread... or this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 God does not create moral evil (sin). But He does cause disaster (ten plagues, Sodom and Ghomorrah, famines, etc.) Evil in the Bible is often used to refer to disaster, adversity and even God's judgment. It would be wrong theologically and exegetically to assign a moral value to the darkness that covered the earth prior to Gen. 1:3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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