Arthur Durnan Posted January 7, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,782 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2005 GOD BLESS THE U.S.A! P.S. Simply check which Muslim entities are sending (how much) money to aid in the recovery & reconstruction of Indonesia after the tsunami. Not many. And not very much. Makes one wonder about the reality of any Islamic generosity. GOD BLESS THE U.S.A! http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR-OCDS Posted January 7, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 429 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2005 We are the world's largest supplier of military weapons and we have supplied oppressive regimes with military hardware and training. This is false. While we supply technology to developed nations, most of the world relies on old Soviet produced and even modern Russian made weaponry. The most popular weapons of choice for most infantry units is the AK-47 and the Soviet styled RPG. As for countries that can afford an airforce, you will find a larger collection of SU-24's, SU-27's, Mig-21's, Mig-25's, Mig-29's, and Mig-31's...all former Soviet or current Russian made air craft. We sell provide arms to Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and at one time, Saddam Hussein and to Afghanistani's. Right now, our so-called friends the Israeli's, have been caught selling drone missiles to China, back in 1994. The Chinese recently sent the missiles back to Israel for repair and upgrade, which the Israeli's did and they were about to return them to China, before the US defense department found out about it. Now the Israeli's don't know what to do? Anger the US, their top arms and foreign aid provider, or the Chinese? If the Israeli's don't send the drones back to China, their credibility as the number 8 arms dealer in the world, will be shattered. We've propped up dictatorships, in order to have access to cheap oil. Name one dictatorship which we did this to. Well we did support Saddam at one time. Right now, the Saudi's, Kuwait, Jordan, and we were playing ball with the Taliban in Afghanistan, prior to the attack on 9/11, for the possibility of access to oil from the pipeline that the Russians wanted to build through that area. Then of course there is Venezuela, a big supplier of oil to the US. We give Israel unconditional support and turn a blind eye, when they commit atrocities, but rebuke Palestinians who fight back, against their oppression. What atrocities has Israel committed? A Human Rights Watch investigation of the Israeli attack on Jenin refugee camp in April 2002 found that "Israeli forces committed serious violations of humanitarian law, some amounting prima facie to war crimes." Some 4,000 Palestinians, more than a quarter of the camp's population, were rendered homeless in "destruction [that] extended well beyond any conceivable purpose of gaining access to fighters, and was vastly disproportionate to the military objectives pursued." Typical of the Israeli atrocities HRW documented in Jenin were these: a "thirty-seven-year-old paralyzed man was killed when the IDF [israel Defense Forces] bulldozed his home on top of him, refusing to allow his relatives the time to remove him from the home"; a "fifty-seven-year-old wheelchair-bound man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted January 7, 2005 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2005 This is all lack of understanding or lack of information about the issues. The communist, islamic agenda is to foster hatred of America, and Israel by as many of the countries, and citizens of the world as is possible to justify thier unethical acts of terror. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What on earth is a "communist Islamic agenda" when it is at home. Rather than castigatigating others for their lack of understanding or information you should concentrate on educating yourself. You might not be a big fan of either Islam or marxism, but to to suggest silly linkages between two very different and incompatible ideologiesideologies is simply silly, I'm sure that even Jo Macathy would not have dared to be so absurd. It is true that Americans who describe anything they don't like as "Communist are seen as daft by many foreigners, I assume, however, that most other Americans think so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabowd Posted January 7, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,489 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2005 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â perhaps , it's because America arrogantly flexes its muscles all over the world. especailly with th at adolescent clown in the white house and his side kick, greedy dick c. If America got over its overinflated sense of entitlement ,we might be more appreciated overseas <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you're so concerned about being appreciatd overseas, move there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR-OCDS Posted January 7, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 429 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted January 7, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2005 We sell provide arms to Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and at one time, Saddam Hussein and to Afghanistani's. Right now, our so-called friends the Israeli's, have been caught selling drone missiles to China, back in 1994. The Chinese recently sent the missiles back to Israel for repair and upgrade, which the Israeli's did and they were about to return them to China, before the US defense department found out about it. Now the Israeli's don't know what to do? Anger the US, their top arms and foreign aid provider, or the Chinese? If the Israeli's don't send the drones back to China, their credibility as the number 8 arms dealer in the world, will be shattered. This does not mean we are the biggest supplier of weapons to the world. If anything it means we supply weapons to neutral-friendly Arabian nations in order for their support. Likewise, the Israeli's have every right to sell arms to China because China is not a threat to Israel and China is not a threat to us. Are you suggesting that we should be harder with France for selling weapons to Iraq? Well we did support Saddam at one time. Right now, the Saudi's, Kuwait, Jordan, and we were playing ball with the Taliban in Afghanistan, prior to the attack on 9/11, for the possibility of access to oil from the pipeline that the Russians wanted to build through that area. Then of course there is Venezuela, a big supplier of oil to the US. The whole issue with supporting Sadam was that we knew he would attack Iran and possibly topple the Islamic regime there. In our mind having an Islamic regime was worse than a secularist dictator. Of course we were wrong, but I'd say we attoned for it. A Human Rights Watch investigation of the Israeli attack on Jenin refugee camp in April 2002 found that "Israeli forces committed serious violations of humanitarian law, some amounting prima facie to war crimes." Some 4,000 Palestinians, more than a quarter of the camp's population, were rendered homeless in "destruction [that] extended well beyond any conceivable purpose of gaining access to fighters, and was vastly disproportionate to the military objectives pursued." Typical of the Israeli atrocities HRW documented in Jenin were these: a "thirty-seven-year-old paralyzed man was killed when the IDF [israel Defense Forces] bulldozed his home on top of him, refusing to allow his relatives the time to remove him from the home"; a "fifty-seven-year-old wheelchair-bound man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR-OCDS Posted January 7, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 429 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2005 More on Israeli attrocities. To be sure, Ehud Barak did disapprove of Operation Defensive Shield. Sharon, he scolded, should have acted "more forcefully." In the meantime, dismissing criticism of Israeli atrocities as driven by anti-Semitism, Holocaust Industry CEO Elie Wiesel lent unconditional support to Israel - "Israel didn't do anything except it reacted.... Whatever Israel has done is the only thing that Israel could have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabowd Posted January 7, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,489 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BibleBoy Posted January 8, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 344 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2005 People hate America because we support Israel and we invaded Afghanistan,Iraq,and possible plans to invade Iran. We need to leave the Middle East alone or we might recieve an invasion worse then September 11th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted January 8, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2005 BibleBoy, Thirty plus years of ignoring Terrorism made us ripe for 9/11. It showed the Terrorists we had no resolve. Ever tackle a schoolyard bully? Any bully for that matter? They thrive on fear. Bless you brother. Peace, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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