A_Voice Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/30/1956 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 kwikphilly God is no respecter of persons. It is the institution of marriage that the Christian is to honour by refusing to contradict what Jesus says is the truth. The institution of marriage places each lawfully married couple in the same status of Adam and Eve: one flesh until death. The personal situation of suffering or being lonely is what may result from being faithful to Jesus. Just like in the case of a preacher in jail because he preached; he accepts the suffering as part of being a Christian. If the respect to what Jesus says brings suffering we are to accept that. He said if we do not deny ourselves we cannot be his disciples. Those who tread underfoot what Jesus said about remarriage being adultery are going to have a rude awakening when they find out how simple it all was. Just don't get remarried. If you get remarried you commit adultery like Jesus said 5 times and Paul twice. But the shock should be easy to accept because it comes with a very simple message: Jesus meant exactly what he said: Paul meant exactly what he said. Remarriage is adultery and adulterers shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,307 Content Per Day: 7.99 Reputation: 21,510 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted November 22, 2014 There shall no one enter into The Lord's presence by the justification of law.... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2014 God is no respecter of persons. It is the institution of marriage that the Christian is to honour by refusing to contradict what Jesus says is the truth. The institution of marriage places each lawfully married couple in the same status of Adam and Eve: one flesh until death. The personal situation of suffering or being lonely is what may result from being faithful to Jesus. Just like in the case of a preacher in jail because he preached; he accepts the suffering as part of being a Christian. If the respect to what Jesus says brings suffering we are to accept that. He said if we do not deny ourselves we cannot be his disciples. Those who tread underfoot what Jesus said about remarriage being adultery are going to have a rude awakening when they find out how simple it all was. Just don't get remarried. If you get remarried you commit adultery like Jesus said 5 times and Paul twice. But the shock should be easy to accept because it comes with a very simple message: Jesus meant exactly what he said: Paul meant exactly what he said. Remarriage is adultery and adulterers shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Instead of insisting that the Bible says something is does not really say...ie no divorce no matter WHAT....it would be SO refreshing to read a defense of what the Bible actually does say about how a husband should act and how a woman should respond, instead of misinterpreting the Bible and representing marriage like a living death sentence that really nobody, wants a part of. Marriage is a relationship...like the one we are supposed to have with God. I get the impression that when someone insists on things outside of what scrpture actually states, that they just may perceive God the same way. How would that be? Like an impossible taskmaster who is ready to whip you into shape the moment you do anything wrong, instead of a loving and kind God, which is actually what He states about Himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinitron Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 140 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) Divorce and remarriage is ok from Jesus only for the man and only in Matthew in the case of adultery committed by the woman. It's very straightforward from the text. Edited November 22, 2014 by Trinitron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2014 Divorce and remarriage is ok from Jesus only for the man and only in Matthew in the case of adultery committed by the woman. It's very straightforward from the text. LOL!...now that's funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Voice Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/30/1956 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Steve, Jesus identified remarriage to be adultery 5 times and Paul did so twice. So you are saying remarriage is not adultery. So you are the one trying to assert justification by the law because it was Moses that allowed divorce and remarriage while the gospel of grace forbids both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Voice Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/30/1956 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Trinitron, Sounds a little unbalanced doesn't it. Like Allah, he says the women don't have equal treatment. The truth is in marriage they become one person, one flesh that only death can separate. That is how it was with Adam and Eve's marriage and all marriages afterward were patterned after that format. Sorry folks, Jesus is not some wimp who doesn't really mean what he says. No one is going to fool him with their claim they were forgiven and that gave them permission to continue committing adultery by remarriage. The adultery by remarriage has to be gotten out of like a person involved in extortion has to stop that crime. Calling adultery by remarriage, not a crime, doesn't make it so. These childish word games are not going to stand up against what Jesus said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mswright6488 Posted November 22, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 213 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 73 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/14/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/30/1975 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) LOL..... Sorry We all love Jesus here, so no one is playing any kind of games A Voice... why don't you just take a deep breath and settle down some? I know a lady who married a jerk that treated her badly. They got divorced and she met a great Godly man. God showed her in a dream the ring he would purpose with. The next day he gave her the same exact ring God shown her in the dream. How do you explain that? The man she was with never wanted God. This was poison to her and holding her back.. so God brought someone new into her life with which His will could be done. I hear you so much speaking from the law... but grace came from Jesus Christ.... We all take our Lord seriously here.. we don't have time for childish games. Edited November 22, 2014 by Mswright6488 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Voice Posted November 23, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/30/1956 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Mswright, If her first marriage was after the pattern of Adam and Eve, neither one having been previously married, then yes, the second is adultery. If that prior marriage was not lawful meaning he was a divorcee, then her second marriage to an eligible person would not be adultery. Jesus meant what he said. Remarriage is adultery. To not warn people is to not love them. To encourage them in what will put them in hell is what we would expect Satan to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinitron Posted November 23, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 140 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted November 23, 2014 Divorce and remarriage is ok from Jesus only for the man and only in Matthew in the case of adultery committed by the woman. It's very straightforward from the text. LOL!...now that's funny Well, maybe if you read the Bible, you would take it more seriously...unless that is, if you don't take the Bible as God's never changing inspired word as a guide to live our lives. Matthew 19:9 But I say to you, “Whoever divorces his wife apart from adultery and will take another, commits adultery, and whoever will take her who is divorced commits adultery.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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