Islam: The Most Violent Religion In the World, But Let's Keep Call

[OakWood]

Just some more thoughts. We tend to think of `peace,` as no wars. And in the west that is what we have. However we may not have wars on our shores but we train those of other nations to fight on their own soil. re - Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. Every country has an army & uses it to get so called `peace.`

 

However do we realise that even in our own western countries we do not have real peace. There is -

 

- sexual conflict. (male / female)

- class conflict. (rich / poor)

- racial conflict. (different ethnic groups)

- national conflicts.

- religious conflicts.

 

And as we know there will be no true peace until the Prince of peace returns. Islam is only part of the problem. Marilyn.

 

Islam is a prophetically significant part of the problem though..... the others are just confusion and sins which are to be expected while Satan rules the World.

[Guest shiloh357]

Islam's vision of "peace" is when the world is Islam.   the problem is that Muslims don't even get along with each other.  They would just kill each other.  If there was no one left to fight, the entire Muslim world would implode on itself. 

[Marilyn C]

Hi Oakwood,

 

I agree that Islam plays a significant role in the end-times deceiving the other nations who will receive the lie that we can all have peace together. I have just read an article posted by Prophecy News Watch concerning the `Secret planting of up to 75,000 Syrian Muslims begins in US.` So that is something to watch. I wrote your own backyard, & then realised you are in the UK & of course have your own difficulties there. Even here in Aussie land the country town near us (we`re on a farm) has many Muslims & some areas you just don`t go near. Soon they will have representatives on council then making decisions for the area. It`s going to move fast across the globe in the next few years. 

 

Marilyn. 

Edited January 29, 2015 by Marilyn C

[coelacanth]

But through out history, the times of inquisition and crusades and other, did they not also, so called Christians, in the name of Christianity also force people to convert and if not kill them?

 

I think that the  people in history who in the name of Christianity killed those who did not convert to Christianity or those who did not look sincere about their conversion

also did something very wrong and sinful.

 

People can bring the same argument about christian a religion of peace who have used force to instill their belief system.

 

 In the past Christians and Muslims did fight for dominance over their religions and as we can see continue to do so.

 

Now it is the radical Muslims who seek dominance at all cost.

 

It is really pure evil at work , but so called Christians of the past where not much better and if they did not repent for their evil doing,

will also be held accountable.

 

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Your entire premise is historically inaccurate. Anyone that uses your argument believes it sounds good but it is errant and incorrect. There were some in the inquistions who made errors reminisciant of the muslims but that was a brief blight which was quickly corrected by Christ. The crusades you elude to were a response to muslims murdering Christians not the other way around. Finally what ever brief error there was from a small group of people who claimed Christ but clearly were in error faded quickly and is not representative of those who truly follow Christ or have followed Christ. However the entire 1500 year history of satan worship, such is islam, has been tainted by bloodshed, murder, rape, theft, and all sorts of malicious behavior in the name of their faux god.

[Qnts2]

 

But through out history, the times of inquisition and crusades and other, did they not also, so called Christians, in the name of Christianity also force people to convert and if not kill them?

 

I think that the  people in history who in the name of Christianity killed those who did not convert to Christianity or those who did not look sincere about their conversion

also did something very wrong and sinful.

 

People can bring the same argument about christian a religion of peace who have used force to instill their belief system.

 

 In the past Christians and Muslims did fight for dominance over their religions and as we can see continue to do so.

 

Now it is the radical Muslims who seek dominance at all cost.

 

It is really pure evil at work , but so called Christians of the past where not much better and if they did not repent for their evil doing,

will also be held accountable.

 

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Your entire premise is historically inaccurate. Anyone that uses your argument believes it sounds good but it is errant and incorrect. There were some in the inquistions who made errors reminisciant of the muslims but that was a brief blight which was quickly corrected by Christ. The crusades you elude to were a response to muslims murdering Christians not the other way around. Finally what ever brief error there was from a small group of people who claimed Christ but clearly were in error faded quickly and is not representative of those who truly follow Christ or have followed Christ. However the entire 1500 year history of satan worship, such is islam, has been tainted by bloodshed, murder, rape, theft, and all sorts of malicious behavior in the name of their faux god.

 

 

I have a different view of the inquisitions. So-called Christianity forced conversion, and then set out to trap the forced converts doing something which was wrong, according to the church. Enough people who were forced converts, were killed in the inquisition, to have made it into Jewish history. (Jews living in Spain or Portugal who were forced to convert or die in the crusades, and did convert, were murdered during the inquisition. Some escaped to South American. The forcefully converted Jews were called Marranos which meant 'pig'. )  

[OakWood]

 

 

But through out history, the times of inquisition and crusades and other, did they not also, so called Christians, in the name of Christianity also force people to convert and if not kill them?

 

I think that the  people in history who in the name of Christianity killed those who did not convert to Christianity or those who did not look sincere about their conversion

also did something very wrong and sinful.

 

People can bring the same argument about christian a religion of peace who have used force to instill their belief system.

 

 In the past Christians and Muslims did fight for dominance over their religions and as we can see continue to do so.

 

Now it is the radical Muslims who seek dominance at all cost.

 

It is really pure evil at work , but so called Christians of the past where not much better and if they did not repent for their evil doing,

will also be held accountable.

 

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Your entire premise is historically inaccurate. Anyone that uses your argument believes it sounds good but it is errant and incorrect. There were some in the inquistions who made errors reminisciant of the muslims but that was a brief blight which was quickly corrected by Christ. The crusades you elude to were a response to muslims murdering Christians not the other way around. Finally what ever brief error there was from a small group of people who claimed Christ but clearly were in error faded quickly and is not representative of those who truly follow Christ or have followed Christ. However the entire 1500 year history of satan worship, such is islam, has been tainted by bloodshed, murder, rape, theft, and all sorts of malicious behavior in the name of their faux god.

 

 

I have a different view of the inquisitions. So-called Christianity forced conversion, and then set out to trap the forced converts doing something which was wrong, according to the church. Enough people who were forced converts, were killed in the inquisition, to have made it into Jewish history. (Jews living in Spain or Portugal who were forced to convert or die in the crusades, and did convert, were murdered during the inquisition. Some escaped to South American. The forcefully converted Jews were called Marranos which meant 'pig'. )  

 

 

Actually the entire reason for the inquisitions in the first place was because of Muslims. After the Reconquista, they had all their power removed from them because people were sick of Muslim oppression, but being Muslims they would pretend to be Christians in order to infiltrate the state. Lying to non-Muslims is permissible in Islam.

The inquisition started as a means of testing whether a Muslim really had converted to Christianity and was not pretending to have done so. When over-enthusiastic and unscrupulous inquisitors started interrogating Jews and non-Catholics as well was when things got out of hand. Finally the Pope put a stop to the inquisitions but not before a number of innocent people had been tortured a murdered.

So there you have it. If it hadn't been for problems with Muslims, the inquisitions would never have started in the first place.

[Guest shiloh357]

Yep.  Islam is more trouble than its worth.

[Will M]

Interesting thread.

 

I actually would like to just add something.

 

People often times equate the catholic church as being the face of christianity.

However, in the crusades, it wasn't about converting. It was about domination.

In fact the reason we have the preserved word of God is thanks to a group of villagers named the vaudois.

They paid for it with their lives yet just like Israel overcame incredible amounts of oppressors and won.

All sanctioned by the Catholic church. The day of st bartholomew is also a very very terrible tragedy again sanctioned by the catholic church, in which 35000 christians died.

 

 

The Catholic church is not anything to do with Jesus, yet "christianity" is directly tied to it.

If this is what is used, to somehow defend their actions, perhaps they could be told. well, those people weren't operating under biblical order, they killed christians under the guise of being one.

 

It makes no difference really, it is the most powerful organization in the world.  However, muslims themselves are people Jesus died for and as such we have to show them exactly why Jesus is way more than a prophet. My doctor is a muslim I speak with him, I have told him Jesus lives, in fact Jesus took a deadly disease away from me, I told him Jesus did it, he said maybe you changed your diet, I said you can't do that... Jesus is alive and Muhammad is not.

 

Now you have a different sort of christian, one who merges islam and christianity called chrislam, Oh Lord Jesus Please, Please return Soon!

 

The thing I want to emphasize is this, it doesn't matter what is believed it only matters what is.

Jesus said unless you come through Him you never come. Let's ask God for wisdom in reaching people, standing in opposition only produces barriers.

Jesus died for the world and until the goats and sheep are judged we have a responsibility to speak the truth, even if it means dying for doing it.

 

God bless you as you continue to seek him.

-Will

Edited January 30, 2015 by Will M

[Guest shiloh357]

The Crusades are, arguably, the most misunderstood events in Church history.    The Crusades cannot be equated with Islamic violence.  Islam is all about conversion at the point of the sword.  Islam has, as its goal, the entire subjugation of humanity to Islam.

 

The Crusades were not conversionary events.   The Crusaders were not spreading Christianity with violence.   The Crusades were result of Muslim murderous violence against Christian pilgrims who were traveling from Europe to the Holy Land.

 

The Crusader army was not a "Christian" army.  It included convicts who were essentially awaiting execution.  The RCC needed to raise an army and these convicts sentenced to death were expendable.  The RCC promised them their freedom for serving in the crusades.

 

This is not a defense of the Crusades, but rather an explanation of them and a comparison of them with Islam.   Islam's scope of violence is universal.  Muslims even murder other Muslims.  It is an ideology that glorifies death.  Death is its righteousness.  The Crusades, on the other hand, were limited in scope and in time and in purpose. 

[Sam Adams]

Why is it that such a small percent of Muslims are violent and doing these things spoken of here?