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[thereselittleflower]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Very true.   There are NO fat UPS drivers that I have ever seen.  They are lean and they run to the door.  I have ordered books for my classes and the drivers are sweating and in some cases out of breath while I am signing for my package.  I can hear them breathing!  They have to hustle.

But they chose to work that job and they stay there because the job has something to offer them.  I bet they are tired when they get home.

Yes,they know what will be expected of them when they are hired.The pay and benefits are good.

they had a good retirement program in the past, I don't know about now

They still do.  My son is smart to look ahead at his retirement, 35 years from now.  It's hard work though and suited for the young.  They have quite a few women drivers here at the Houston hub.  That surprised me.

We have a lady that delivers to our house about half the time.....   she's really nice....   but then again, they all are.

Usually but not always. . . . .

 

A driver that used to come to our house seemed nice,  but our akita never liked him at all - which was strange because he liked everyone  (a very mellow akita).   

 

One day the driver came to the house, the akita went nuts so I stepped outside and held the door behind me.  The driver out of nowhere started yelling at me, calling me all sorts of nasty names, became verbally abusive, put his face within inches of mine.   All I could do was just stand there and not antagonize him further, and I thought if he makes one move towards me I would be letting the door fly open; and I had no doubt my akita would have had him pinned down on the ground by his throat in seconds.   He finally left and I called the his distribution center, told his supervisor what happened and that he was never to step on our property again, and if he did so I was calling the police and pressing charges.

They quickly got a new driver on our route.  I have no idea what happened to this driver, but it is the only time I have ever had a problem with any drivers from UPS.

 

 

 

 

 

[missmuffet]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Very true.   There are NO fat UPS drivers that I have ever seen.  They are lean and they run to the door.  I have ordered books for my classes and the drivers are sweating and in some cases out of breath while I am signing for my package.  I can hear them breathing!  They have to hustle.

But they chose to work that job and they stay there because the job has something to offer them.  I bet they are tired when they get home.

Yes,they know what will be expected of them when they are hired.The pay and benefits are good.

they had a good retirement program in the past, I don't know about now

They still do.  My son is smart to look ahead at his retirement, 35 years from now.  It's hard work though and suited for the young.  They have quite a few women drivers here at the Houston hub.  That surprised me.

We have a lady that delivers to our house about half the time.....   she's really nice....   but then again, they all are.

Usually but not always. . . . .

 

A driver that used to come to our house seemed nice,  but our akita never liked him at all - which was strange because he liked everyone  (a very mellow akita).   

 

One day the driver came to the house, the akita went nuts so I stepped outside and held the door behind me.  The driver out of nowhere started yelling at me, calling me all sorts of nasty names, became verbally abusive, put his face within inches of mine.   All I could do was just stand there and not antagonize him further, and I thought if he makes one move towards me I would be letting the door fly open; and I had no doubt my akita would have had him pinned down on the ground by his throat in seconds.   He finally left and I called the his distribution center, told his supervisor what happened and that he was never to step on our property again, and if he did so I was calling the police and pressing charges.

They quickly got a new driver on our route.  I have no idea what happened to this driver, but it is the only time I have ever had a problem with any drivers from UPS.

 

 

 

 

 

It can be that way with anyone.It all depends on the person.You can get some within a company that are nice and some that are not.You can not experience one nice driver and assume that they are all nice.If you experience one nice bus driver it does not mean they are all nice.

[1x1is1]

Well, as I indicated, before retirement, I drove for a national food chain, Kroger.  Occasionally I would arrive at a store with the delivery and be confronted by an irate receiver that had just dealt with nasty driver.  I had to smooth things over each time.  I always maintained a "your the boss when I am at your store" kind of attitude.  Some drivers felt that a person earning less money than them should not be in control.

I often wore shirts that had Christian logos on them.  Like the one in my profile.  So it was not hard at all to win them over to a pleasant delivery transaction.  Some managers, because they knew my reputation, when it was busy and could not break away to open the receiving door,  would toss me the keys and tell me to do it myself, (that action could mean an immediate dismissal for both of us).

I talked to the drivers that were accused of having bad delivery habits in our driver ready room or during pre-trip inspections.  They always understood and thanked me because they knew my actions prevented the clerks from calling in on them.

[missmuffet]

Well, as I indicated, before retirement, I drove for a national food chain, Kroger.  Occasionally I would arrive at a store with the delivery and be confronted by an irate receiver that had just dealt with nasty driver.  I had to smooth things over each time.  I always maintained a "your the boss when I am at your store" kind of attitude.  Some drivers felt that a person earning less money than them should not be in control.

I often wore shirts that had Christian logos on them.  Like the one in my profile.  So it was not hard at all to win them over to a pleasant delivery transaction.  Some managers, because they knew my reputation, when it was busy and could not break away to open the receiving door,  would toss me the keys and tell me to do it myself, (that action could mean an immediate dismissal for both of us).

I talked to the drivers that were accused of having bad delivery habits in our driver ready room or during pre-trip inspections.  They always understood and thanked me because they knew my actions prevented the clerks from calling in on them.

That is too bad that we have to deal with toxic people.It sure does not make for a nice working experience.I have been there done that.When many of the people where I worked knew I was a Christian I was often shunned or abused.I think that I reminded them of their eternity.Kroger is a company of Fred Meyer which is my favorite store where I live .