Jump to content
IGNORED

Principalities


gdemoss

Recommended Posts


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  18
  • Topic Count:  7
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  7,932
  • Content Per Day:  2.42
  • Reputation:   2,785
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  06/05/2015
  • Status:  Offline

do you really consider anything besides the Bible as fiction????

I can tell fiction from scripture, when I said fictions I made it clear, the product of an imaginative mind as a result of reading the scriptures.

dont chalenge me case I don't want to embarrass you, but read it for your self carefully.

example: I am the Lord of Lords now, which means something I was not before. Someone must have lost some Lordship, all power has been given to me. Someone must have lost some power.

i have the keys of Hades and death, someone must have surrender the keys to Jesus. Some one has suffer defeat. 

The Holy Spirit is here on earth, and in our heart and the place is full of it during worship and prayer, some one has lost some space and is dispose and lost control from many places on earth. 

Idolatric countries became Christian. 

Min philipi Paul defeated and redeculous the principalities spirits who had control in that area, he free the girl from them, and he also free the warden from them.

But the girl who was under their protection, a symbol of their power. And he deliver Paul out of their judgement. 

There is a new occupant in us, fiting the evilness that want to indueling in us, without your and mine permission there is also a greater power on earth now than the monopoly of the devil in the past, defeat in not a future commodity,

And the stories of the Antichrist in that post, don't tell me it is scripture, but rather wishful imagination of a vain and lofty mind. 

all that has nothing to do with the simple question I asked.

The only absolute mind that has not error is that of Jesus Christ, every thing else has to be carefully waited, examine and balance, take a look at the leaders of the churches in the book of revelation, because they had some error, does not mean, everything about them was wrong, Jesus found wrong in everyone, but they could not see it and refuse his guidance in that specific matter only, and he sill loved them very much.

No I am not promoting any other book, besides the scriptures. And hope that we still considered the Holy Spirit.

It is a good question, not very clear, that's why it deserved an unclear answer.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  18
  • Topic Count:  7
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  7,932
  • Content Per Day:  2.42
  • Reputation:   2,785
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  06/05/2015
  • Status:  Offline

The bible speaks of principalities.  This week I began researching deeper into the topic and how this would affect ones worldview.

I would like to hear your understanding of Principalities and their Princes along with how you understand juristiction of such Princes as it pertains to that which they are Prince of.

Thank You!

You will find the term *principalities* used in connection with the hierarchies of angels (primary the evil angels). Christians sometimes forget that even though Satan was cast out of God's Heaven, his authority over countless evil angels was not taken away.  And even though he was defeated at the Cross when Christ conquered the power of sin, Hell, Hades, death, and Satan, his powers to continue as *the god of this world* were not taken away. Just before the Antichrist takes control of this world, all the evil angels and Satan will be cast down to earth from the first and second heavens.

As the *god of this world* and *the prince of the power of the air* he has angelic rulers under him and they are ranked just as an army has ranks, and some of these ranks have the status of *princes*.  Those ranks are shown as:

Thrones

Dominions

Principalities

Powers

Rulers of the darkness of this world

Spiritual wickedness in high places

Please tells what is that you have read in scripture and what is the fiction, I can not tell "your fiction" cause you must have like to adapt it from someone you respect and is your guide in this matter, that has been substituted by you as the guidance of the holy spirit when it is not, please we like to know, what is scripture base and what is from imaginative spirits.

Everything that Ezra wrote is very scriptural with no fiction.  Now you may have a disagreement over interpretation, but Ezra can show from scripture exactly why he believes as he believes.   And I hope that it is just a different of interpretation.   When he told you to take a Strong Concordance, he doesn't consider it a holy book but rather a concordance that even great Bible scholars use to better understand the Hebrew, Aramiac, and Greek words that our Bible was translated from.  For instance at least three words are translate love from Greek agape, phila, and eros.  Each word is properly translated love, but each word are different definition of love.

It's a good instruction I take it to heart, there are always softer words to use to make one's point of view, and to avoid offence been taken.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  18
  • Topic Count:  7
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  7,932
  • Content Per Day:  2.42
  • Reputation:   2,785
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  06/05/2015
  • Status:  Offline

 

Just before the Antichrist takes control of this world, all the evil angels and Satan will be cast down to earth from the first and second heavens.

Ezra

Satan and his angels were kicked out of heaven after the resurrection of Christ;

 

 Revelation 12:4   And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

(Satan casting his angels down here, ...going after Christ when Mary was pregnant, so not thrown out yet, but scheming.)

  Revelation 12:5   And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
(Jesus was born, then killed and resurrected)


  Revelation 12:6   And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
(straight after the resurrection, the doctrine of Christ was preserved for 3 1/2 years. God hid them (the apostles and their disciples) in the wilderness (the world) ... because Paul was being used to hunt down all Christians and kill them during this time period)


  Revelation 12:7   And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
(Heaven was cleaned up when Christ ascended - It happened here)


  Revelation 12:8   And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
(Their out, gone)


  Revelation 12:9   And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

(He's here on the earth since then with his angels doing what he does best, which is why he full of wrath and revenge - he's kicked out of his habitation, heaven)

So Satan kicked out straight AFTER the resurrection.  That part is already  fulfilled.

thank you for your post, what a beatiful insight. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  18
  • Topic Count:  7
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  7,932
  • Content Per Day:  2.42
  • Reputation:   2,785
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  06/05/2015
  • Status:  Offline

Abuse of other posters is not allowed. This includes, but is not limited to, name calling, insulting, harassing, threatening or in any way invading the privacy of another poster. We also strongly discourage giving out personal information such as email addresses, physical addresses and phone numbers on the public boards. Any information given out in private is at your own discretion and risk. (Eph. 4: 29)

Debate the subject, not the person. It is possible to disagree about a doctrine or subject under discussion without insulting the person with whom you are debating. Also remember that the fact that a person disagrees with you does not mean they are attacking you as a person. Respect each other in the love of God! This is the main reason that threads get stopped, shut down, and even deleted! Users that cannot respect others will be banned. (Lev. 19:18)

Thank you for your reminder, very well taken. I 'll keep it in mind, I like it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  18
  • Topic Count:  7
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  7,932
  • Content Per Day:  2.42
  • Reputation:   2,785
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  06/05/2015
  • Status:  Offline

The bible speaks of principalities.  This week I began researching deeper into the topic and how this would affect ones worldview.

I would like to hear your understanding of Principalities and their Princes along with how you understand juristiction of such Princes as it pertains to that which they are Prince of.

Thank You!

You will find the term *principalities* used in connection with the hierarchies of angels (primary the evil angels). Christians sometimes forget that even though Satan was cast out of God's Heaven, his authority over countless evil angels was not taken away.  And even though he was defeated at the Cross when Christ conquered the power of sin, Hell, Hades, death, and Satan, his powers to continue as *the god of this world* were not taken away. Just before the Antichrist takes control of this world, all the evil angels and Satan will be cast down to earth from the first and second heavens.

As the *god of this world* and *the prince of the power of the air* he has angelic rulers under him and they are ranked just as an army has ranks, and some of these ranks have the status of *princes*.  Those ranks are shown as:

Thrones

Dominions

Principalities

Powers

Rulers of the darkness of this world

Spiritual wickedness in high places

Hello brother Ezra, I read your post, and I am not quite clear about a few things, at this time I am not quite sure how to discern the contex in your post, unless I ask a few questions. But even thought that would have been acceptable to some people, I don't think so is they way to go sometimes, because questions and answers will need more questions and answers.

" Spiritual wickedness in high places"

This statement has nothing to do for the Devil occupieing a place in heavens, it is about his leadership, which we don't get to  meet. We meet only his agents and sub-agents, that will include also people. only his own get to meet them.( a high place in the old was mount Carmel).

Today is also where those powers are manifested.

One place for us Is, any place when we gather together (or alone) for worship, or when Jesus does it at his will.

The same thing with Jesus, he has the Holy Spirit, his Angels, and his people, here on earth. 

"Rulers of the Darkness of this World"

Also Jesus has "Rulers of his Light of this Worlds"

The Rulers of the Darkness  have the Evil Spirit to work with" and his Angels. and the rest.

The Rulers of the Light, have the Holy Spirit to work with", and Gods Angels and the rest.

For us, "Greater is he, who is in you, or us, than him who is in the world". 

For the Devil's people, the Holy Spirit is in the World, but not in them.

"powers"

There are evil powers and there are godly powers, and we have the carriers of those powers, which include people.

I give you power from on high, to tred upon scorpions and snakes, and anything that comes your way, even power to save and to heal. 

The Devil also has his powers given to people that seek after him, just like the Gifts of the Holy, Spirit.

"Principalities" 

Jesus Christ has principalities working for him, he was one working for God, the disciples were principalities with powers and just like Paul even today we follow there guidance.

Go into the whole World and claim people and territories for me, "the World is Mine", I am not restricted on this land and the people any more.

I have died for all, the earth is my inheritance also, spiritually, not literally. I can take people from every tribe on earth, as part of my Nation.

The Land of Jesus is not a phycical Territorial Land.

We his people are his Land, we are "his Nation", without borders and boundaries. The Land and the Borders He Rules and Protects is us.

" Dominions" 

Not only evil dominions, we also have Gods Dominions, the samething for "Thrones".

I will go on "Jesus has the Keys of Hades and death" on some other Post, the subject will come up.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...