Mystery of Noah's Flood

[Seve]

On 6/27/2016 at 5:40 AM, Seve said:

Ancient Mankind on this earth changed from Prehistoric to Human just AFTER Noah arrived on this Planet. Civilization was born just South of the  Mountains of Ararat.

The reason there is No evidence of Human Civilization before Mesopotamia, is that Humanity on this planet was inherited from  Noah' grand children, a direct descendant of the first Human, Adam. Noah's grandsons married the descendants of the sons of  God (Prehistoric Men) and    produced those with the intelligence necessary to WRITE their own History.

This event took place some 10K years ago, and History agrees with Scripture.  Evolutionism is Odd Man out, and NO Evol has been able to show us ANY evidence of an Earlier Human Civilization, than that which is listed in Scripture nor could produce evidence that we evolved from "Apes".

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE.... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou...lemap.html

God bless

Dear Readers, 

Isa 24:18-20 is like a "double edge sword" and speaking of Noah’s Flood, since this is obviously the account of the FIRST Earth being clean dissolved in water when the windows of their heaven were opened. It's speaking of Adam's world being completely destroyed in water during  the Flood. However, it is also set up as a Snare or Trap to catch those willingly ignorant unbelievers of this last days.

v18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in thesnare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake. v19 The earth is utterly broken down,  the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. v20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression  thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

The Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that all the inhabitants thereof (except those in the Ark)... together with the entire Earth of Adam were  totally destroyed / dissolved - beneath the surface of the body of water in Lake Van, Turkey - in the interior of our hollow Earth. 

2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: v6 Whereby the world (Greek-Kosmos) that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed, totally)

The verses from the Old and New Testament confirm that Adam's world, the world that then was, was totally destroyed in the Flood and that the  heavens and earth which are now will also be dissolved by fire. and the elements shall melt with fervent heat. 

The same word in Isa 24:18 ”dissolved” - is used again and kept in store to describe the upcoming prophecy of the new heaven and earth which are now, reserved unto fire and will melt with fervent heat.

2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store (dissolved) , reserved unto fire against the day of  judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

2PE 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

 

God Bless

 

Isa 42:16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.

 

Edited May 6, 2017 by OneLight
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[HAZARD]

God created Adam and Eve in His Image and in His likeness, they were perfect replicas of God, our soul being immortal, created to live forever. God never did and God never will create Prehistoric Men. And no, .  .  .  Noah never arrived on a planet of Apes, that was Charlton Heston.

[Seve]

Gen1:21 tells us that every living creature that moveth was brought forth from the waters on Day 5. This includes the prehistoric mankind  or sons of God, as our Lord described them in Gen 6 who's origin is also from the waters - and is made flesh. Science agrees that all living creatures / species originated from the waters.

Gen 2 tells us of Creatures made from the dust of the ground. Some Religionist see this as a contradiction,

and falsely assume that the Scripture is mistranslated, 
 
They are ignorant of the fact that God (Elohim) originally brought forth EVERY Living Creature that moved, from the water, on Day 5.

The account of the formation of the beasts of the field and fowl of the air, from the Dust on the 6th Day, is when YHWH or Jesus squeezed, as a potter would mold a clay, and formed living creatures from the dust of the ground (His/Their Kinds). 

The creatures made from the dust were identical to those brought forth from the waters and could produce offspring together. 
 
The first Living Being made from the dust was man. Man was made on the 3rd Day before the plants and herbs, right after the mist that watered the whole face of the ground. Gen 2:4-7. This gives Mankind Preeminence or First Place among all other Living Creatures.

Like the animals made from the dust, humans also married and produced children with Beings brought forth from the water. That's where Cain's wife came from, and that is who Noah's grandsons married, on this Planet. 

Incest was never a part of the multiplication process of Humankind, as far as the God’ righteousness is concerned.
 
We have the DNA of the sons of God (Prehistoric Mankind) and we also have the Human Intelligence that can ONLY be inherited from Adam, the first Human. We are all descended with modifications from a common ancestor, and his name is Adam.

God brought forth every living creature that moveth from the water, on the 5th Day, and Jesus produced "His/Their Kinds" from the dust of the ground on the 6th Day.

We are all confined to our own kind (flesh) in order to have offspring and multiply.

 

Gob Bless

Edited June 29, 2016 by Seve

[woundeddog]

On ‎6‎/‎26‎/‎2016 at 5:08 AM, Seve said:

The Holy Spirit reveals one thing to me and something else to another

scripture is not up to private interpretation-- the Spirit will not reveal 2 different meanings

[HAZARD]

2 hours ago, Seve said:

Gen1:21 tells us that every living creature that moveth was brought forth from the waters on Day 5. This includes the prehistoric mankind  or sons of God, as our Lord described them in Gen 6 who's origin is also from the waters - and is made flesh. Science agrees that all living creatures / species originated from the waters.

Gen 2 tells us of Creatures made from the dust of the ground. Some Religionist see this as a contradiction,

and falsely assume that the Scripture is mistranslated, 
 
They are ignorant of the fact that God (Elohim) originally brought forth EVERY Living Creature that moved, from the water, on Day 5.

The account of the formation of the beasts of the field and fowl of the air, from the Dust on the 6th Day, is when YHWH or Jesus squeezed, as a potter would mold a clay, and formed living creatures from the dust of the ground (His/Their Kinds). 

The creatures made from the dust were identical to those brought forth from the waters and could produce offspring together. 
 
The first Living Being made from the dust was man. Man was made on the 3rd Day before the plants and herbs, right after the mist that watered the whole face of the ground. Gen 2:4-7. This gives Mankind Preeminence or First Place among all other Living Creatures.

Like the animals made from the dust, humans also married and produced children with Beings brought forth from the water. That's where Cain's wife came from, and that is who Noah's grandsons married, on this Planet. 

Incest was never a part of the multiplication process of Humankind, as far as the God’ righteousness is concerned.
 
We have the DNA of the sons of God (Prehistoric Mankind) and we also have the Human Intelligence that can ONLY be inherited from Adam, the first Human. We are all descended with modifications from a common ancestor, and his name is Adam.

God brought forth every living creature that moveth from the water, on the 5th Day, and Jesus produced "His/Their Kinds" from the dust of the ground on the 6th Day.

We are all confined to our own kind (flesh) in order to have offspring and multiply.

 

Gob Bless

The words, "and every living creature that moveth," are mentioned in Gen. 1:21 and Lev.11:46.

Gen. 1:21, And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

God created great whales. Great sea creatures. Some whales are said to become 40 to 100 feet in size and weigh 300,000 lbs. This verse literally reads, "Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures. And let fowl fly above the earth." There is no allusion to any productive power in the waters, of to the fowl being produced by the waters. God was the personal creator of each living creature (V. 21; 2:19).

 

Lev. 11:46 This is the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth:

God did not create any men, prehistoric, missing links or any other type of man. God created Adam from the dust of the ground, and He then made Eve from one of Adams ribs, making Adam and Eve in His own, (God's) image and likeness, created He them.

[Seve]

6 hours ago, HAZARD said:

The words, "and every living creature that moveth," are mentioned in Gen. 1:21 and Lev.11:46.

Gen. 1:21, And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

God created great whales. Great sea creatures. Some whales are said to become 40 to 100 feet in size and weigh 300,000 lbs. This verse literally reads, "Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures. And let fowl fly above the earth." There is no allusion to any productive power in the waters, of to the fowl being produced by the waters. God was the personal creator of each living creature (V. 21; 2:19).

 

Lev. 11:46 This is the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth:

God did not create any men, prehistoric, missing links or any other type of man. God created Adam from the dust of the ground, and He then made Eve from one of Adams ribs, making Adam and Eve in His own, (God's) image and likeness, created He them.

[Gen 1:20-21 KJV] 20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21 And God created great whales, and EVERY living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.

So, who do you think created the homo sapiens called Cro Magnon, Satan?    I bet, you really don't think they move, do you? 

See link ...  http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/fossils/cro-magnon-1

 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2016 by Seve

[Seve]

7 hours ago, woundeddog said:

scripture is not up to private interpretation-- the Spirit will not reveal 2 different meanings

 

No, private interpretation here. Almost all of my posts and assertions are based and supported with Scriptural analogies, science or history.

 

Look at all the denominations. If you look at Christianity as a big Pie, and see all the denominations as slices in the pie, you will find  that God's Truth is in the whole pie, and that each slice teaches only part of God's Truth.

 

That's how God has chosen to reveal His Truth.

 

Why? Because ONLY those who have Faith, not knowledge, can enter the Kingdom of God. The complexity of views of the various  denominations assure that we must come to God by Faith alone, no matter the denomination.

 

Below is the complete thought of my Un-edited quote in question: 

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 I love to see other  Christian's views, for that is the way we learn .

The Holy Spirit reveals one thing to me and something else to another. Listen to the Old Songs, and read the words, and you will see the Holy Spirit in action. When we all get together, in Heaven, we will come to know All of the Truth. Jesus told us "I am the Truth". I can hardly wait to know the Truth.

 

Edited June 29, 2016 by Seve

[Kan]

On 6/27/2016 at 9:47 PM, Seve said:

Greetings FresnoJoe.... Amen to that!

[Gen 8:5 KJV] 5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth [month], on the first [day] of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.

This was when the small window in the top of the Ark was opened. Until October 1st they could NOT see through the roof of the Ark. If they had  opened the window on 7/17, they could have seen the tops of the mountains then.

Gen 8:7 Noah released a Raven which did NOT return to the Ark.  

Gen 8:8-9 Then he released the Dove who returned and Noah thought the waters were on the face of the whole earth, so he took her  back into the ark.  

Gen 8:10 Then Noah waited 7 days more and released the Dove again and this time she returned with an Olive leaf in her mouth. 

Can somebody explain HOW an Olive tree can germinate in the mud of a flooded Earth, grow up into a tree and put forth leaves in  One week.  Olive trees can take up to a year to germinate. 

That could have been another mystery, if, one believes that the Great Flood actually happened on our present world, isn’t it!?

 

God bless

The dove came back with an olive leaf which was plucked as the Bible states. It does not say it came back with a branch in its mouth, and neither does it say that the dove plucked it from an olive tree. At least not in the KJV. It is presumed by some people that the dove plucked a branch or olive leaf from a tree. But the Bible does not say that, it says that the olive leaf had been plucked. By the dove? no, by the elements, the wind, the tempest or whatever. It may have been floating high in space during the flood and settled a year later.

Noah wanted to know if the water had dried from off the land. He knew that the dove walks on dry ground and seeks to peck at seeds or whatever, and if the ground is wet it prefers to return to the dry deck of the ark as it did the first time. It does not look for a tree to start plucking olive leaves. A giraffe does that.

So your mystery of the olive tree growing in one week comes from speed reading.

[Kan]

2 hours ago, Seve said:

 

Isn't he running for president?

[Seve]

On 6/26/2016 at 6:08 AM, Seve said:

 

 

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Can somebody explain HOW an Olive tree can germinate in the mud of a flooded Earth, grow up into a tree and put forth leaves in  One week.  Olive trees can take up to a year to germinate. 

That could have been another mystery, if, one believes that the Great Flood actually happened on our present world, isn’t it!?

3 hours ago, Kan said:

The dove came back with an olive leaf which was plucked as the Bible states. It does not say it came back with a branch in its mouth, and neither does it say that the dove plucked it from an olive tree. At least not in the KJV. It is presumed by some people that the dove plucked a branch or olive leaf from a tree. But the Bible does not say that, it says that the olive leaf had been plucked. By the dove? no, by the elements, the wind, the tempest or whatever. It may have been floating high in space during the flood and settled a year later.

Noah wanted to know if the water had dried from off the land. He knew that the dove walks on dry ground and seeks to peck at seeds or whatever, and if the ground is wet it prefers to return to the dry deck of the ark as it did the first time. It does not look for a tree to start plucking olive leaves. A giraffe does that.

So your mystery of the olive tree growing in one week comes from speed reading.

Hello Ken,

Sorry, I disagree. Your assumption of my post of the mystery of the olive leaf that came only from  "speed reading" is unacceptable.

Gen 8:10 10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; 11 And the dove came in to him in the evening;  and, lo, in her mouth [was] an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.

The point is... The olive leaf pluck off in the mouth of the Dove could not have come from Adam’s world (as my premises alluded to above quote). It is a Biblical fact that Adam’s world was already destroyed in the flood after 150 days and is gone forever. 2 Peter 3:5- after Noah’s Ark landed at the mountains of Ararat. 

IOW, the olive leaf came from our present world - in the area somewhere in the mountains of Ararat.

Perhaps, you also missed reading the basis of the premises of my Scriptural analysis below from previous postings....

The Flood began on Feb 17th of Noah's 600th year. Gen 7:11 The Ark rested on the mountains of Ararat n July 17th or 150 days after the flood began. Gen 8:4 

[Gen 8:4 KJV] 4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

The Ark was above the highest mountains of Adam's world. The firmament, in which Adam's Earth was contained, end up floating in LakeVan,Turkey,   the largest Lake in the area. It's in the mountains of Ararat some 75 miles wide.

After 150 days, the firmament filled with water, it sank, and the entire FIRST Heaven, and all of it's inhabitants, were destroyed in the Flood, except those in the Ark. 

The Ark was covered and floated out the top of Adam's firmament into the largest Lake in the area, as the firmament sank. This explains a way for a 450 foot Ark to be above the highest mountains of Adam's world...AND....in the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the flood began as Gen 7:24 AND Gen 8:4 tell us

Therefore, your multiple assumptions ref: underlined premises above could no longer be applied / valid, simply, because, the Ark is now in  our present world and not on the first heaven - Adam's world. (based on the given premise above)

 

God bless

 

Edited June 29, 2016 by Seve