simplejeff Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 0:44 AM, Heavenunlimited said: According to John Todd. There are 39 major illnesses (doctors say it) that are controlled by several demons and he mentioned the names for deliverance! How ALL illnesses are under demons! If you are referring to the late John Todd who was involved with the occult, and then was apparently converted, some believe that he was a fraud and a conspiracy theorist. Personally, I do not know enough about this person to say anything one way or another. All illnesses are not under demons, but unquestionably some are caused by Satan and his minions according to Scripture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewels7 Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 713 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 351 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 2:44 AM, Heavenunlimited said: According to John Todd. There are 39 major illnesses (doctors say it) that are controlled by several demons and he mentioned the names for deliverance! How ALL illnesses are under demons! If this is true Mr.Todd should be able to give the names of those doctors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 12 hours ago, missmuffet said: God creates everything. We live in a fallen world and have since the fall of Adam and Eve. I am not saying that Satan does not exist. To say that is putting words in my mouth. Satan is a fallen angel and he was created by God. Satan was cast out of heaven by God because of his pride plus 1/3 of the angels in heaven which became the followers of Satan. Who roams the earth now like a roaring lion. But Satan did not create anything and that includes sickness. God created man a perfect living being, in His image and likeness created He him. Since mans fall, sadly like the devil and demons, man can cause evil and sickness and disease, pain and suffering through his works. Several clear examples of what simple men can do to create suffering: Men made the atomic bomb, the hydrogen bomb, and interconental ballistic missiles to deliver them anywhere in the world, men made mustard gas, and nerve gas which cause untold suffering and death. If demon influenced or possessed men can make and cause these horrid pain, and sickness and death causing things, what more can a spirit being do? First two pictures, atomic bomb victims, the second two, mustard gas victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, HAZARD said: God created man a perfect living being, in His image and likeness created He him. Since mans fall, sadly like the devil and demons, man can cause evil and sickness and disease, pain and suffering through his works. Several clear examples of what simple men can do to create suffering: Men made atomic bomb, the hydrogen bomb, interconental ballistic missiles, mustard gas, nerve gas. If demon influenced or possessed men can make and cause these horrid pain, and sickness and death causing things, what more can a spirit being do? First two pictures, atomic bomb victims, the second two, mustard gas victims. Those are some pretty gross pictures. Are they really necessary? I think we have the idea with out the graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, missmuffet said: Those are some pretty gross pictures. Are they really necessary? I think we have the idea with out the graphics. Yes they are, especially when people make rash statements like God causes sickness suffering and disease. These pictures clearly show and prove that men, influenced by the devil and demons cause such things, not God. A few pictures are worth a thousand words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, HAZARD said: Yes they are, especially when people make rash statements like God causes sickness suffering and disease. These pictures clearly show and prove that men, influenced by the devil and demons cause such things, not God. A few pictures are worth a thousand words. God does not cause sickness. Although he created it because God has created everything. Why does God allow suffering? That is an age old question and I don't know. But we have to have faith and trust and know that he has it all covered and he has a plan for all of us for His glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, missmuffet said: God does not cause sickness. Although he created it because God has created everything. Why does God allow suffering? That is an age old question and I don't know. But we have to have faith and trust and know that he has it all covered and he has a plan for all of us for His glory. Is sickness a good thing? Your suggesting God created sickness, if this is true, which its not, then everything He created "WAS NOT GOOD," as God said it was? Have we been hoodwinked by God? Can you show one scripture where God says He created sickness, sin, or even disease. If you can I will then believe it. John 1:3, All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. A very careful reading of Gen. 1:1-31, shows everything was good, even very good. There is not one word said by God about His creation which includes sickness in all these passages including John 1:1. Gen. 1:31, And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, IT WAS VERY GOOD. . . . . . . Do you believe sickness, which is not one time mentioned by God as being made by Him, is good, even very good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, HAZARD said: Is sickness a good thing? Your suggesting God created sickness, if this is true, which its not, then everything He created "WAS NOT GOOD," as God said it was? Have we been hoodwinked by God? Can you show one scripture where God says He created sickness, sin, or even disease. If you can I will then believe it. John 1:3, All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. A very careful reading of Gen. 1:1-31, shows everything was good, even very good. There is not one word said by God about His creation which includes sickness in all these passages including John 1:1. Gen. 1:31, And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, IT WAS VERY GOOD. . . . . . . Do you believe sickness, which is not one time mentioned by God as being made by Him, is good, even very good? sickness and suffering is not a good thing. God doesn't cause it but he allows it for whatever purpose He has in our lives. God has created everything. Not everything he has created is good. Why did He create it. I don't know. Colossians 1:16 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, missmuffet said: sickness and suffering is not a good thing. God doesn't cause it but he allows it for whatever purpose He has in our lives. God has created everything. Not everything he has created is good. Why did He create it. I don't know. Show us ONE SCRIPTURE from any chapter in the entire Bible where it is stated God created sickness, We all know He created everything, He mentions everything He created. Why did He not mention that He created sickness, and it was not very good because He wanted men to suffer????????? Gen. 1:31, AND GOD SAW EVERYTHING THAT HE HAD MADE, AND BEHOLD, IT WAS VERY GOOD . . . . . . . You realise your actually saying God lied to us! Because If God created everything, including sickness, which you admit is not good, then God lied when He said EVERYTHING WAS VERY GOOD. God never said every thing was very good except sickness which I created????? God cannot lie, believe it. Tit. 1:2, In hope of eternal life, which God, that God CANNOT LIE, promised before the world began; Colossians 1:16 1 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. Except sickness! I'm still waiting for one Scripture which says God created sickness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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