missmuffet Posted February 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.78 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2017 What does the Bible say about RIP when a person dies? Is it Biblical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remnantrob Posted February 14, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,029 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 261 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/25/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/23/1982 Share Posted February 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, missmuffet said: What does the Bible say about RIP when a person dies? Is it Biblical? are you asking about saying RIP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted February 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 957 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,631 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,079 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted February 14, 2017 33 minutes ago, missmuffet said: What does the Bible say about RIP when a person dies? Is it Biblical? "In peace I will both lie down and sleep; for you alone, O LORD, make me dwell in safety." Hi, Biblical enough? The reference is to a living person having peace. Plus "The righteous man perishes, and no one lays it to heart;devout men are taken away, while no one understands.For the righteous man is taken away from calamity;2 he enters into peace;" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remnantrob Posted February 14, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,029 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 261 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/25/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/23/1982 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Oh i think i get it now. Well, a lot of pastors are going to have to repent because they probably mention it to both those who are "saved" and "not saved". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 14, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.78 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 Because the thought of death can be frightening, people through the years have invented some platitudes with which to comfort themselves. When someone dies, we often hear unbiblical statements such as “She’s an angel now” and “God needed another angel in heaven”; sometimes, we hear the bromide “He’s in a better place,” spoken with no thought that he might actually be in a worse place. People who never have time for God suddenly grow religious at a funeral. They try to assure themselves and others that, regardless of the deceased’s relationship with God while on earth, he or she is in heaven now. But we must not ignore what Scripture teaches. The Bible is clear that physical death is not the end (Hebrews 9:27; John 3:16–18). Jesus taught that there are only two options for every human being: heaven or hell (Matthew 10:28; 25:46; Mark 9:43;). He gave a vivid picture of those two options in the story of the rich man and Lazarus, found in Luke 16:19–31. In this account, the rich man, who had given no thought of God during his earthly life, went to hell when he died. Lazarus, who possessed nothing on earth but a pure heart, was taken to paradise. Hell is described as a place of torment (verse 23), not a place of rest. According to Scripture, a person who dies without Christ is not “resting in peace” (see John 3:18). “‘There is no peace,’ says my God, ‘for the wicked’” (Isaiah 57:21). However, death is entirely different for those who are “in Christ” (Romans 8:1; 1 Corinthians 1:30). First Thessalonians 4:13 reminds us that, while it is natural to grieve for loved ones who have died, we do not need to grieve for believers in Christ as though we will never see them again. There is hope mixed with the sorrow. The Bible often refers to the dead in Christ as “those who are asleep” (1 Corinthians 15:20; Acts 13:36; 1 Thessalonians 5:10). The biblical writers used sleep as a metaphor because death for a Christian is only temporary. Paul said that “to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8). Those receive Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior are with Him in paradise when they die (Luke 23:43). So, after death Christians do enter a “rest,” and it is “peaceful.” However, is saying, “Rest in peace,” biblical? The problem with saying, “Rest in peace,” is that it is framed as a prayer. In Latin, it is literally “May he begin to rest in peace.” Of course, praying for the dead is unbiblical. At the moment of death, a person’s fate is sealed. The Bible never teaches or even suggests that we should pray on behalf of those who have passed away. Saying, “Rest in peace,” writing “RIP,” and other forms of prayers for the dead are rooted in Catholic tradition, not the Word of God. https://www.gotquestions.org/rest-in-peace-RIP.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted February 14, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 hour ago, missmuffet said: What does the Bible say about RIP when a person dies? Is it Biblical? R.I.P. is from the Latin requiescat in pace (rest in peace). Actually it cannot be biblical because the souls and spirits of Christians do not sleep, or simply rest when they are in Heaven. And those who are not saved cannot rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted February 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 957 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,631 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,079 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted February 14, 2017 "The expression “rest in peace” is never used in Scripture in connection with a person who had died. So, in that sense, saying “Rest in peace,” is not expressly biblical." -Got Questions It is not "expressly" unbiblical either. Perhaps biblically it is totally irrelevant? The expression may be a bit of an outdated one anyway. I must confess that in directing some many thousands of funerals, and in completing the orders to bronze and or granite memorial companies for families desiring to honor the memory of their dead at their place of interment, I do not think a one of them ever asked for the inscription R.I.P. Don't think I ever heard a pastor, priest, rabbi, or cleric of any kind ever use the expression either. Guess the only place I have every heard it is here,- and then I confused it with something one might declare they don't give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted February 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 957 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,631 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,079 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Just for a little more fun that same authority and source of biblical truth, Got Questions, also states: " It could be said, though, that a person’s body is “sleeping” while his soul is in paradise or Hades. At the resurrection, this body is “awakened” and transformed into the everlasting body a person will possess for eternity, whether in heaven or hell." - Got Questions So in that use RIP may be essentially, if not "expressly" Biblical, and if used on a tombstone would be quiet appropriate pertaining to the body below memorial over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 14, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.78 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, Neighbor said: Just for a little more fun that same authority and source of biblical truth, Got Questions, also states: " It could be said, though, that a person’s body is “sleeping” while his soul is in paradise or Hades. At the resurrection, this body is “awakened” and transformed into the everlasting body a person will possess for eternity, whether in heaven or hell." - Got Questions So in that use RIP may be essentially, if not "expressly" Biblical, and if used on a tombstone would be quiet appropriate pertaining to the body below memorial over it. Yes, I think their issues is in praying for the soul which has already departed. But the body remains in the grave until it is resurrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted February 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 957 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,631 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,079 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Is it all that profitable to the cause of our Lord and savior Jesus to be bashing the Roman Catholic over what we may perceive as being their folly? Instead might we find greater gain in spending some time whittling on the log in our own eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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