Ovedya Posted March 28, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted March 28, 2005 2 Tim. 2:23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwinkjr Posted March 28, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,430 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/18/1981 Share Posted March 28, 2005 2 Tim. 2:23 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 2Ti 2:23 Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. You see a quarrel here? Honestly this has been a very civil discussion. God Bless, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted March 28, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted March 28, 2005 2 Tim. 2:23 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 2Ti 2:23 Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. You see a quarrel here? Honestly this has been a very civil discussion. God Bless, Dave <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. It's just the verse that came immediately to mind when I read the OP and a few responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmh Posted March 28, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,790 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/21/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/15/1968 Share Posted March 28, 2005 When is a soul attributed to a human being? God says "I knew you before you were in the womb". So if this being was put there by man and not God, would God have placed a soul there? Honestly I see VERY BAD things coming out of human cloning, I see a way for the AntiChrist to come into this world all the while mocking God. Lets say a scientist creates a clone, the egg that is imbedded with the cloned DNA is that implanted in the scientists virgin daughter so he can hide it and bring it to full term, (as this is currently not legal to do). We know have a being without a father that is born of a virgin (gasp!), (yeah I know I have a wild imagination ) But honestly what better way for the father of lies to bring his child the imitator of Christ the AntiChrist into existence? We continue to open doors that we will one day wish we just simply welded the lock in place and tossed to the bottom of hte ocean. God Bless, Dave <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You bring up a very interesting point. The antichrist being a cloned person, born of a virgin who knew no man. The scientist could consider himself god for doing such things and/or the "child" created could also do the same thing. Scary, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwinkjr Posted March 28, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,430 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/18/1981 Share Posted March 28, 2005 2 Tim. 2:23 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 2Ti 2:23 Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. You see a quarrel here? Honestly this has been a very civil discussion. God Bless, Dave <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. It's just the verse that came immediately to mind when I read the OP and a few responses. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok I can appreciate not wanting to get involved in this discussion, it all comes down to mere speculation. God Bless, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted March 28, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerioke Posted March 28, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,850 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1911 Share Posted March 28, 2005 No. Why would (s)he be? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just trying to point out the absurdity of the discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D Smith Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 a Clone is just the very same thing as a twin. If you are born with a twin, and then they make a clone of you, there is no way to tell the difference....twins are like clones but are hear via a more natural system of reproduction... I dont think we should form judgements against a person based only on the reproduction system used to bring them into the wrold.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwinkjr Posted March 28, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,430 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/18/1981 Share Posted March 28, 2005 a Clone is just the very same thing as a twin. If you are born with a twin, and then they make a clone of you, there is no way to tell the difference....twins are like clones but are hear via a more natural system of reproduction... I dont think we should form judgements against a person based only on the reproduction system used to bring them into the wrold.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A twin is natural and would not necessarily be the same thing as a clone. As you can have identical twins or Fraternal twins. Natural reproduction is God led, can we say the same about cloning? God Bless, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D Smith Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 To mark out a clone as "different" is wrong,,,,it would lead us to think of clones as 2nd class people. A twin and a clone are the same, they have the same DNA,,,there is no way to tell who is a twin and who is a clone... a twin just as a more natural form of reproduction that lead to them being here,,, a twin still is born, they still cause their birth mother much pain,,,they are still small and helpless at birth.... a clone is just the same as a twin,,,if you had a clone made of yourself and a Identical twin born at the same time there would be no difference,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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