HAZARD Posted July 2, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 2, 2017 Pope Francis has sacked the head of the Vatican office that handles sex abuse cases, just days after he released Australian cardinal George Pell to return home to face charges of historical sexual assault. The developments underscored how the Catholic Church’s sex abuse crisis has caught up with Francis, threatening to tarnish his legacy over a series of questionable appointments, decisions and oversights in his four-year papacy. Francis on Saturday declined to renew the mandate of German Cardinal Gerhard Mueller as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican office that processes and evaluates all cases of priests accused of raping or molesting minors. Francis named Mueller’s deputy, Monsignor Luis Ladaria Ferrer, a Spanish Jesuit, to run the powerful office instead. During Mueller’s five-year term, the congregation amassed a 2000-case backlog and came under blistering criticism from Irish abuse survivor Marie Collins, who had been tapped by Francis in 2014 to advise the church on caring for abuse victims and protecting children from paedophile priests. Collins resigned from the papal commission in March, citing the “unacceptable” level of resistance from Mueller’s office to heeding the commission’s proposals. In May, Francis said her criticism of the slow pace in processing abuse cases was justified and announced he was adding more staff to handle the overload. Earlier this year he also named Cardinal Sean O'Malley as a member of the congregation in hopes of ensuring better cooperation. Mueller's ouster was the second major Vatican shake-up this week. On Thursday, Francis granted Cardinal Pell, another Vatican hardliner, a leave of absence to return to Australia to face multiple charges of historical sexual assault. The cardinal has strongly denied the charges. Francis has come under criticism for having named him to the powerful position of the Vatican's money czar in 2014 in the first place, given that accusations of wrongdoing had dogged him even then. Pell has been widely denounced at home for mishandling abuse cases while he was a bishop and of having treated victims harshly in seeking to protect the church from abuse-related civil litigation. Mueller and Pell were two most powerful cardinals in the Vatican, after the Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Pietro Parolin. The week's events could be seen as an attempt by Francis to turn the page, given his legacy has already been sullied by repeated failings to make good on his "zero tolerance" pledge for abuse. http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/pope-francis-fires-head-of-child-sexual-abuse-investigations-office/ar-BBDzGCJ?li=AAavLaF&ocid=ientp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted July 2, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.20 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 2, 2017 Its all just politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PageofGrace Posted July 2, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 115 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 71 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/02/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 2, 2017 It's common knowledge isn't it? Never let wolves police coyotes for their hunting of lambs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 2, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 28 minutes ago, PageofGrace said: It's common knowledge isn't it? Never let wolves police coyotes for their hunting of lambs. I totally agree. The fact they have department for dealing with child sex abuse claims, says it all..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisFirst Posted July 3, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 21 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3,491 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 2,582 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/25/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 3, 2017 3 hours ago, ayin jade said: Its all just politics. I was thinking that too but I hope its a step in the right direction.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowerwater Posted July 3, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 2 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 91 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 33 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/01/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 hours ago, HAZARD said: I totally agree. The fact they have department for dealing with child sex abuse claims, says it all..... Yes, it does. What a horrible legacy they must defend when they die, especially the popes, and then have to answer to God for what they covered up about child rape. Do you think there are to be millstones in Hell? If anyone deserves it it is those priests who betrayed the innocent in the name of the cloth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted July 3, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.20 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 3, 2017 36 minutes ago, HisFirst said: I was thinking that too but I hope its a step in the right direction.... I doubt it unfortunately. The vatican is also embroiled in a controversy over a terminally ill baby in the uk and it has changed its opinion or changed from an opinion (hard to tell with the flowery wording) based on society instead of the bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 3, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 54 minutes ago, Flowerwater said: Yes, it does. What a horrible legacy they must defend when they die, especially the popes, and then have to answer to God for what they covered up about child rape. Do you think there are to be millstones in Hell? If anyone deserves it it is those priests who betrayed the innocent in the name of the cloth. Yes, Scripture also teaches that there will be degrees of punishment in Hell as far as remorse and torment of the conscience is concerned (Matt. 10:15; 11:22; 12:41; 23:14; Mark 6:11; 12:40; Luke 10:14; 11:31, 32; 20:47). These degrees of punishment will be because of the kind of sins committed by one that were not committed by another. No man will be punished or could have remorse over something he did not do. They will all regret rebelling against God and man and failing to believe in Jesus, and repenting of sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, HAZARD said: Yes, Scripture also teaches that there will be degrees of punishment in Hell as far as remorse and torment of the conscience is concerned (Matt. 10:15; 11:22; 12:41; 23:14; Mark 6:11; 12:40; Luke 10:14; 11:31, 32; 20:47). These degrees of punishment will be because of the kind of sins committed by one that were not committed by another. No man will be punished or could have remorse over something he did not do. They will all regret rebelling against God and man and failing to believe in Jesus, and repenting of sin. There will be many who will continue to curse the LORD every single eternal day. Not all will have remorse. We see an example of this in end days when the LORD is pouring out his wrath and they still do not repent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 3, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Blueyedjewel said: There will be many who will continue to curse the LORD every single eternal day. Not all will have remorse. We see an example of this in end days when the LORD is pouring out his wrath and they still do not repent. This is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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