notsolostsoul Posted July 9, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 419 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/07/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) Matthew 10:14 New International Version (NIV) 14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. Leave them be, whether gays, whatever sinners or in their opinions. Bring GOD'S WORD, and if they do not accept. Leave them and quit pushing the issue. Leave it/them to God to deal with. It's not loving them any less or anymore. It's leaving the Battle/Judgement to whom will win it, God. Edited July 9, 2017 by notsolostsoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, notsolostsoul said: Matthew 10:14 New International Version (NIV) 14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. Leave them be, whether gays, whatever sinners or in their opinions. Bring GOD'S WORD, and if they do not accept. Leave them and quit pushing the issue. Leave it/them to God to deal with. It's not loving them any less or anymore. It's leaving the Battle/Judgement to whom will win it, God. That was Jesus commandment to His disciples, not a commandment the Church. We are to contend for the faith and for truth. The Bible's truth isn't comfortable, but it is our job to defend it even if it makes others uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsolostsoul Posted July 9, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 419 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/07/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: That was Jesus commandment to His disciples, not a commandment the Church. We are to contend for the faith and for truth. The Bible's truth isn't comfortable, but it is our job to defend it even if it makes others uncomfortable. Aren't Christians disciples of Jesus in a sense. Also are The Bible's Teachings Greater than Jesus' words to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, notsolostsoul said: Aren't Christians disciples of Jesus in a sense. Also are The Bible's Teachings Greater than Jesus' words to you? Yes, but those words were to Jesus' original disciples, not to us and they pertained to that particular missionary journey. Jesus' words are equal to Scripture, as they are part of Scripture and Jesus is God. But that is beside the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsolostsoul Posted July 9, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 419 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/07/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 minute ago, shiloh357 said: Yes, but those words were to Jesus' original disciples, not to us and they pertained to that particular missionary journey. So the missionary journey has changed? Or it only applied to that time? 3 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Jesus' words are equal to Scripture, as they are part of Scripture and Jesus is God. But that is beside the point. When Jesus spoke to followers of the law in the past. Didn't he speak on how the scriptures were misunderstood and misinterpreted to how God intended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, notsolostsoul said: So the missionary journey has changed? Or it only applied to that time? That command was for that situation and for that moment. It is not a doctrine meant for all people for all time. The message they were commissioned to give was different than our message. It's really simple. No need complicate it in order to defend your sloppy application of scripture. Quote When Jesus spoke to followers of the law in the past. Didn't he speak on how the scriptures were misunderstood and misinterpreted to how God intended? Yes, and he provided the correct understanding when he mentioned incidents where that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted July 9, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2017 53 minutes ago, notsolostsoul said: Matthew 10:14 New International Version (NIV) 14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. Leave them be, whether gays, whatever sinners or in their opinions. Bring GOD'S WORD, and if they do not accept. Leave them and quit pushing the issue. Leave it/them to God to deal with. It's not loving them any less or anymore. It's leaving the Battle/Judgement to whom will win it, God. Amein. If a sexual pervert, a sexual deviant, comes to church, their sin will not be tolerated in the assembly. They may repent of it, and be immersed in Jesus Name, and start living a new life. If they try to stay among believers, they will be shunned, if they do not repent. Period. Yes. If they don't want to hear the truth, if they cannot (and they cannot) stand being in the LIGHT(JESUS), they will not try to stay in church nor on a Christian Forum - their dark sinful soul and mind cannot stand the LIGHT, and they will leave on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted July 9, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Redemption79 said: homosexual attraction in itself is not a sin Shiloh answered this several times correctly, that yes, it is sin. Other evil thoughts, wicked thoughts, sinful thoughts in the heart or in the mind likewise, not just sexual defilement, but all rebellion, all rebelliousness .... are to be cleansed, wiped out, washed clean by the Blood of Jesus (if someone is willing, repents, and turns to God as written)... All Sin, any Sin like any other sin to be repented of - stop sinning, and sin no more. A complete change of life God requires - a new heart, a renewed mind IN CHRIST - accomplished by the Father as His Word Says Always - not accomplished at all by the desires nor the will of the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted July 10, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 478 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,567 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 7,645 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2017 5 hours ago, simplejeff said: Shiloh answered this several times correctly, that yes, it is sin. Other evil thoughts, wicked thoughts, sinful thoughts in the heart or in the mind likewise, not just sexual defilement, but all rebellion, all rebelliousness .... are to be cleansed, wiped out, washed clean by the Blood of Jesus (if someone is willing, repents, and turns to God as written)... All Sin, any Sin like any other sin to be repented of - stop sinning, and sin no more. A complete change of life God requires - a new heart, a renewed mind IN CHRIST - accomplished by the Father as His Word Says Always - not accomplished at all by the desires nor the will of the flesh. It takes time sometimes for a believer to break sin habits. I think they need encouraging to walk in the truth. But it takes time. Don't be quick to condemn anyone. I do believe we have to put sin out of our lives completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Wayne222 said: It takes time sometimes for a believer to break sin habits. I think they need encouraging to walk in the truth. But it takes time. Don't be quick to condemn anyone. I do believe we have to put sin out of our lives completely. This has nothing to do with bad habits. It has to do with repenting and turning from sin. It is the Holy Spirit that enables that. It is not about condemning anyone, but rather condemning a lifestyle that God has already condemned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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