ben34 Posted March 31, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 110 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/31/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 Sin kills David not smoking. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It killed my father at only 42 years of age. Yes, smoking kills. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you speak of your father well let me speak of mine my father is 56 years of age now will be 57 this year has smoked most of his life even before adult age and has had a brain hemrage and yet is in better condition than most I have seen I do not praise him or say that he is better than any other but I will say he lives a faithful life in Christ does he sin sometimes yes but he comes to sin and repents and ask forgiveness if we remember it was sin that caused the death of christ not smoking or any of these other things it was sin. So before we say smoking kills we should look at our spiritual and fleshly lives first and seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and its righteousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
his-servant-too Posted March 31, 2005 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 306 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/30/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1952 Share Posted March 31, 2005 [i find it interesting that you only use the versions that use the words that help your case and switch from ons version to another. looks good on paper. still doesn't convince me of your point. How many times is the word going to be changed from how it was written Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted March 31, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted March 31, 2005 The current Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) permissible exposure limit (PEL) for carbon monoxide is 50 parts per million (ppm) parts of air (55 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m(3))) as an 8-hour time-weighted average (TWA) concentration [29 CFR Table Z-1]. **Taken from: http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/...ecognition.html A person who smokes a pack of cigarettes per day will commonly have a CO level of about 20 parts per million. A two-pack-a-day smoker may have a level of about 40 parts per million. **Taken from: http://www.carbonmonoxidekills.com/carbon_..._cigarettes.htm (Statement not verified by scientific data, however). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerioke Posted March 31, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,850 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1911 Share Posted March 31, 2005 The current Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) permissible exposure limit (PEL) for carbon monoxide is 50 parts per million (ppm) parts of air (55 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m(3))) as an 8-hour time-weighted average (TWA) concentration [29 CFR Table Z-1]. **Taken from: http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/...ecognition.html A person who smokes a pack of cigarettes per day will commonly have a CO level of about 20 parts per million. A two-pack-a-day smoker may have a level of about 40 parts per million. **Taken from: http://www.carbonmonoxidekills.com/carbon_..._cigarettes.htm (Statement not verified by scientific data, however). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> look who's getting off topic now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben34 Posted March 31, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 110 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/31/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 [i find it interesting that you only use the versions that use the words that help your case and switch from ons version to another. looks good on paper. still doesn't convince me of your point. How many times is the word going to be changed from how it was written <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If there is any of you who can tell me where in scriptures it says that smoking kills and defiles the body? What it does say is that sin kills for sin caused the death of christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted March 31, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted March 31, 2005 The current Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) permissible exposure limit (PEL) for carbon monoxide is 50 parts per million (ppm) parts of air (55 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m(3))) as an 8-hour time-weighted average (TWA) concentration [29 CFR Table Z-1]. **Taken from: http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/...ecognition.html A person who smokes a pack of cigarettes per day will commonly have a CO level of about 20 parts per million. A two-pack-a-day smoker may have a level of about 40 parts per million. **Taken from: http://www.carbonmonoxidekills.com/carbon_..._cigarettes.htm (Statement not verified by scientific data, however). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> look who's getting off topic now <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well...I never said it didn't happen. But you're right.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted March 31, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted March 31, 2005 [i find it interesting that you only use the versions that use the words that help your case and switch from ons version to another. looks good on paper. still doesn't convince me of your point. How many times is the word going to be changed from how it was written <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If there is any of you who can tell me where in scriptures it says that smoking kills and defiles the body? What it does say is that sin kills for sin caused the death of christ. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really? Where exactly does the Bible say that sin caused the death of Christ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben34 Posted March 31, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 110 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/31/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 The current Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) permissible exposure limit (PEL) for carbon monoxide is 50 parts per million (ppm) parts of air (55 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m(3))) as an 8-hour time-weighted average (TWA) concentration [29 CFR Table Z-1]. **Taken from: http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/...ecognition.html A person who smokes a pack of cigarettes per day will commonly have a CO level of about 20 parts per million. A two-pack-a-day smoker may have a level of about 40 parts per million. **Taken from: http://www.carbonmonoxidekills.com/carbon_..._cigarettes.htm (Statement not verified by scientific data, however). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> look who's getting off topic now <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well...I never said it didn't happen. But you're right.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> who are you saying is right ovedya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imamom Posted March 31, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 279 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/30/1965 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Can a Gay be a believer and be saved? To is smoking a sin. Hmmmmmm... However feeling a bit irritated here. Sorrry Sin kills, not smoking. As a smoker I pray every day that I find the faith in Gods power to quit this nasty, temple killing habit. The bible doesn't specifically mention illegal drug use as sin. I suppose destroying the temple with drugs is not a sin either. Don't buy it no I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted March 31, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 8,601 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/16/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/04/1973 Share Posted March 31, 2005 So if we assume cigarrettes are okay, what's next? Marijuana? If smoking a cigarette isn't a sin, how about a joint? Look, they all defile the body and that is a sin. The Bible speaks against gluttony which is overeating and will kill you prematurely. The only reason the Bible doesn't speak against cigarettes is that the Marlboro man wasn't around in that day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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