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1 hour ago, Enoch2021 said:

1.  The meaning of Proof and Evidence is a Semantics Argument.   Semantics is concerned with the MEANING of WORDS. ERGO....we then consult a DICTIONARY..."Merriam-Websters".  Next Block of Instruction:  How to make a Sandwich with a Light On.

 

2.  Wikipedia, eh?  Well I posted this to refute your clumsy repeated Equivocation Fallacy with the term "theory"...

"It is important to note that the definition of a "scientific theory" (often contracted to "theory" for the sake of brevity, including in this page) as used in the disciplines of science is significantly different from the common vernacular usage of the word "theory".[4][Note 1] In everyday non-scientific speech, "theory" can imply that something is an unsubstantiated and speculative guess, conjecture, idea, or, hypothesis;[4] such a usage is the opposite of the word "theory" in science."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

Ya see the [4] above (??) That means it's a "CITATION".  Guess what the [4] is Referencing ??...

The National Academy of Sciences.  <==== Is that a Great Bastion of Science?

So in summary, you posted a False Equivalence Fallacy comparing my treatment of (Proof and Evidence) with a previous Equivocation Fallacy claim you made ("theory"-- Colloquial and "Scientific Theory" -- of which I PUMMELED then) which renders the entire ensemble Non-Sequitur. 

 

ps.  Thanks for allowing me to illustrate (ONCE AGAIN) your confusion between a Colloquial "theory" and a Scientific Theory.  thumbsup.gif  

 

Ahh yea...you did:

Tristen: "Observations are the source of the hypothesis, but also the outcome/results of the experiments."

So AGAIN...  "LOOKING" at Experimental Results (Step 5 of The Scientific Method: Analyze Resultsis not the same as Step 1 of The Scientific Method:  "Observe a Phenomena"

ps.  It's getting well beyond painfully tedious having to post and explain back to you what you've said/written.

 

:huh:  Well because "Observing Phenomena"-- Step 1 of The Scientific Method is not the same as "LOOKING" at Experimental Results --Step 5 of The Scientific Method: Analyze Results.  

Which part of this Painfully Prima Facie concept is confusing?

 

You're position is so Utterly BANKRUPT that this is what it comes down to, eh?  

 

oy vey sir

 

regards

 

ps.  Should we take your Non Responses to the other 25 rebuttals in the post you partially quoted tacitly as "Uncle"?

 

I think I understand. When the dictionary agrees with you (e.g. proof and evidence), then it can be trusted as the highest semantic authority. But when the dictionary definition doesn't conform to your definition (such as with theory and observation), then we have to seek out other sources of semantic authority.

Thank you for continuing to restate you position - thereby adding to its rational validation (aka "pummeling" my position). Because the more you state something, the more true it becomes.

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On 10/8/2017 at 7:48 PM, Tristen said:

If we are in the Matrix, then the scientific method is an illusion.

Now is it possible for God to be in the matrix and not aware of it....hmmmmmmmmmm   :crazy:

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59 minutes ago, Bonky said:

Now is it possible for God to be in the matrix and not aware of it....hmmmmmmmmmm   :crazy:

If Keanu could figure it out, I'm sure God would be all over it.

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15 hours ago, Sojourner414 said:

That is akin to the "brain in the vat" argument. The problem with that is 1) it supposes God to be finite 2) assumes that all creation are just "brains in jars"/ the matrix". One problem with this line of thinking is that if it were true, there would be no way to test it, as all physical "data" would be untrustworthy and thus all questions would be moot.

Additionally, all it does is move the "infinite regression" syndrome, not remove it. If all of us (and for the sake of argument, God) were "in the matrix/ vat", then who created that Matrix/vat? And who created the person who created it? And who created that person who created that person? And so on and so forth.

I wasn't making a serious statement it was more just a fun thought.   But since you posted this, why is supposing that God is finite any worse than supposing he isn't?  Neither claim is substantiated.

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15 hours ago, Bonky said:

I wasn't making a serious statement.... it was more just a fun thought....
But since you posted this, why is supposing that God is finite....
any worse than supposing he isn't....

Neither claim is substantiated.....

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8 hours ago, Sojourner414 said:

Because finite beings aren't capable of creating and maintaining infinitely complex systems such as the reality around us,

How did you determine this?  I can imagine incredible power that isn't infinite.  

 

8 hours ago, Sojourner414 said:

How would you know there were other universes outside of this one? Besides, only finite beings make mistakes, and this universe being tuned for the life it holds doesn't indicate any errors.

How did you determine that there aren't any "mistakes" in our Universe lol.  I don't want to derail this thread but I think you're too easily content with pat answers on this particular issue.

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13 hours ago, Bonky said:

I can imagine incredible power that isn't infinite.... 

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Infinite Power

“Worthy are you, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they existed and were created.” Revelation 4:11 (English Standard Version)

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"As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. Isaiah 55:9 (New International Version)

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