Two very simple questions

[Psalms37:4]

22 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

You think Israel has nothing to do with armegedon.Lol

Armageddon is located in Israel.

You're the one saying "Israel has nothing to do with armagedon.Lol" not me.

Here's what I said:

On 11/9/2017 at 12:42 AM, Psalms37:4 said:

Israel's next war is not Armageddon. We're not even in the tribulation yet. In fact, Israel isn't even involved in Armageddon.

 

Armageddon is located in the Valley of Megiddo.

Can't you do anything right? LOL

 

 

 

 

[Psalms37:4]

21 hours ago, inchrist said:

Nothing in Matthew 24:29 gives any hint to take stars or heaven shaken to be  figurative

Well if that's what you believe, than what are you doing in preparation for the sun to collide with the earth, stockpile twinkies and donuts?

Matthew 24:29 New King James Version (NKJV)

²⁹ “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, Psalms37:4 said:

You're the one saying "Israel has nothing to do with armagedon.Lol" not me.

Here's what I said:

On 11/9/2017 at 12:42 AM, Psalms37:4 said:

Israel's next war is not Armageddon. We're not even in the tribulation yet. In fact, Israel isn't even involved in Armageddon.

 

Armageddon is located in the Valley of Megiddo.

Can't you do anything right? LOL

 

 

 

 

Armageddon is located in,israel.

And israel is involved in Armageddon more than any other country.

You obviously don't know much about Israel.It's goverment,or the people who serve it.

[Justin Adams]

16 hours ago, inchrist said:

And I just told you Christ could of stated " man made objects falling from the sky"

 

 

All things that describe the effects of a meteorite.

 

Nukes, man made rockets etc. come so FAST you do not have but moments, WHISTLE then BOOM. Rarely even seen... just a rushing whistle and then OBLIVION in a FLASH.
Comets and heavenly bodies can be seen for a good long time and take a while to fall leaving distinctive 'tails'. Lie outside on a moonless night and watch them in the upper atmosphere. Easily seen though they are very small particles that burn up on re-entry.

[Psalms37:4]

2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Armageddon is located in,israel.

So are all these places.  So what's your point?

• Afula
• ʿAkko
• ʿArad
• Ashdod
• Ashqelon
• Bat Yam
• Beersheba
• Bet Sheʾan
• Bet Sheʿarim
• Bnei Brak
• Caesarea
• Dimona
• Dor
• Elat
• ʿEn Gedi
• Givʿatayim
• H̱adera
• Haifa
• Herzliyya
• H̱olon
• Jerusalem
• Karmiʾel
• Kefar Sava
• Lod
• Meron
• Nahariyya
• Nazareth
• Netanya
• Petaẖ Tiqwa
• Qiryat Shemona
• Ramat Gan
• Ramla
• Reẖovot
• Rishon LeẔiyyon
• Sedom
• Tel Aviv–Yafo
• Tiberias
• Ẕefat

 

The battle of Armageddon is the prophecy of the final battle before Christ's return which is what we've been talking till you decided to strawman.

This Is Where The Final Battle Of Armageddon Will Be Fought

MEGIDDO — Situated here at the foot of Israel's Mount Megiddo, the valley pictured below is believed by many Christians to be the site of the Battle of Armageddon, the final fight of End Times before the Second Coming of Jesus. 

http://www.businessinsider.com/battle-armageddon-israel-evangelical-christians-2013-1

 

This place goes by the same name as described in the bible.  

Zechariah 12:11 King James Version (KJV)

¹¹ In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

 

2 Chronicles 35:22 King James Version (KJV)

²² Nevertheless Josiah would not turn his face from him, but disguised himself, that he might fight with him, and hearkened not unto the words of Necho from the mouth of God, and came to fight in the valley of Megiddo.

 

2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

And israel is involved in Armageddon more than any other country.

You obviously don't know much about Israel.It's goverment,or the people who serve it.

You don't need to know all that to know about prophecy, which is something you don't seem to get if you think Israel will be involved in the battle of Armageddon.

Nor do you know about Israel's future or the Israelis' since you definitely don't know when the 144,000 gets seal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Psalms37:4]

3 hours ago, inchrist said:

We call them shooting stars

The bible doesn't call them shooting stars nor is it found in the entire bible. Shooting stars and stars are two different things. You're changing the definition of Matthew 24:29 from stars to meteors contradicting your argument there's nothing in that verse to indicate stars as a figurative term for something else. 

Your position failed the honesty test!

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If we examine events of the 6th seal, those hiding in caves are not going to associate falling stars being nukes as Gods wrath...man made objects are not seen as Gods wrath

Revelation 6:15-17 New King James Version (NKJV)

¹⁵ And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, ¹⁶ and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! ¹⁷ For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

 

I know 110% the ins and outs of what Revelation 6:15-16 means exactly to the tee. You don't! And you only think I failed because you don't know what the events of the 6th seal is all about. You got no clue why all these people are hiding. I know this for a fact and am laughing my head off of what you think you know.

The real fact is, you're the failure here. No such thing as a "post trib/pre wrath" rapture. The wrath of God does not occur after the tribulation as your ludicrous rapture theory claims. The wrath begins at the 6th seal, not after the tribulation as you been so foolishly believing all this time.

I'm pretty sure you'll attempt to rearrange the 6th seal all the way to the 7th bowl and move everything after the tribulation to fit your new eschatology. Am I right? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, Psalms37:4 said:

So are all these places.  So what's your point?

• Afula
• ʿAkko
• ʿArad
• Ashdod
• Ashqelon
• Bat Yam
• Beersheba
• Bet Sheʾan
• Bet Sheʿarim
• Bnei Brak
• Caesarea
• Dimona
• Dor
• Elat
• ʿEn Gedi
• Givʿatayim
• H̱adera
• Haifa
• Herzliyya
• H̱olon
• Jerusalem
• Karmiʾel
• Kefar Sava
• Lod
• Meron
• Nahariyya
• Nazareth
• Netanya
• Petaẖ Tiqwa
• Qiryat Shemona
• Ramat Gan
• Ramla
• Reẖovot
• Rishon LeẔiyyon
• Sedom
• Tel Aviv–Yafo
• Tiberias
• Ẕefat

 

The battle of Armageddon is the prophecy of the final battle before Christ's return which is what we've been talking till you decided to strawman.

This Is Where The Final Battle Of Armageddon Will Be Fought

MEGIDDO — Situated here at the foot of Israel's Mount Megiddo, the valley pictured below is believed by many Christians to be the site of the Battle of Armageddon, the final fight of End Times before the Second Coming of Jesus. 

http://www.businessinsider.com/battle-armageddon-israel-evangelical-christians-2013-1

 

This place goes by the same name as described in the bible.  

Zechariah 12:11 King James Version (KJV)

¹¹ In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

 

2 Chronicles 35:22 King James Version (KJV)

²² Nevertheless Josiah would not turn his face from him, but disguised himself, that he might fight with him, and hearkened not unto the words of Necho from the mouth of God, and came to fight in the valley of Megiddo.

 

You don't need to know all that to know about prophecy, which is something you don't seem to get if you think Israel will be involved in the battle of Armageddon.

Nor do you know about Israel's future or the Israelis' since you definitely don't know when the 144,000 gets seal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you understood The battle of Armageddon, you would know about the Israeli government who rules there.

[Keras]

10 hours ago, Psalms37:4 said:

No Keras, it's because of the bible that I refuse to accept your crazy idea of a global apocalyptic CME during the 6th seal. Your crazy idea is just not biblical. I reject it even more whenever you throw out scriptures telling others it's supported in the bible when they don't.

There are over 100 prophesies that can and will be literally fulfilled by a Coronal Mass Ejection of unprecedented size.  Your denial of the plain statement in Isaiah 30:26; how the sun will explode with a flash seven times brighter that its normal strength, just shows your ignorance and rejection of Bible truth. 

But, of course, God wants most people to be unaware of what He has planned, so just keep on with your fanciful notions and when the terrible Day of the Lord strikes, try to keep calm and remember what we are told to do then. 

[Psalms37:4]

13 hours ago, Keras said:

There are over 100 prophesies that can and will be literally fulfilled by a Coronal Mass Ejection of unprecedented size. 

Well we don't want you to make claims on a public forum where hundreds of people can see you end up not able to back your words. So go ahead and post all 100 of those prophecies for us Keras.

Do us a favor and please post 100 scriptures. Not just 10, 20 or even 30. We want you to keep your word and not say what you don't mean. I'll even make it worth your wild for you and refute not 10, not 20, not 50, not 99 but all 100 of those scriptures you'll find. That'll be a ton of work for me having to prove you wrong but I'm willing to spend the whole night exposing those scriptures you throw out and let the readers decide for themselves if what you say authentically reveals a Coronal Mass Ejection occurring at the 6th seal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Psalms37:4]

19 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

If you understood The battle of Armageddon, you would know about the Israeli government who rules there.

Well if you know something about prophecy, you would know there's not even gonna be an Israeli government left by the time the battle of Armageddon comes around. All the cities in Israel will be destroyed beginning with Jerusalem at the AoD and those that survived the AoD will be scattered.

 

Jeremiah 25:29 Good News Translation (GNT)

²⁹ I will begin my work of destruction in my own city. Do they think they will go unpunished? No, they will be punished, for I am going to send war on all the people on earth. I, the Lord Almighty, have spoken.

 

Jeremiah 1:15 New King James Version (NKJV)

¹⁵ For behold, I am calling
All the families of the kingdoms of the north,” says theLord;
“They shall come and each one set his throne
At the entrance of the gates of Jerusalem,
Against all its walls all around,
And against all the cities of Judah.

 

Jeremiah 10:22 New King James Version (NKJV)

²² Behold, the noise of the report has come,
And a great commotion out of the north country,
To make the cities of Judah desolate, a den of jackals.

 

Jeremiah 9:11 New King James Version (NKJV)

¹¹ “I will make Jerusalem a heap of ruins, a den of jackals.
I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.”

 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jer 4&version=NKJV

Jeremiah 4 New King James Version (NKJV)

4 “If you will return, O Israel,” says the Lord,
“Return to Me;
And if you will put away your abominations out of My sight,
Then you shall not be moved.
² And you shall swear, ‘The Lord lives,’
In truth, in judgment, and in righteousness;
The nations shall bless themselves in Him,
And in Him they shall glory.”

³ For thus says the Lord to the men of Judah and Jerusalem:

“Break up your fallow ground,
And do not sow among thorns.
⁴ Circumcise yourselves to the Lord,
And take away the foreskins of your hearts,
You men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem,
Lest My fury come forth like fire,
And burn so that no one can quench it,
Because of the evil of your doings.”

An Imminent Invasion

⁵ Declare in Judah and proclaim in Jerusalem, and say:

“Blow the trumpet in the land;
Cry, ‘Gather together,’
And say, ‘Assemble yourselves,
And let us go into the fortified cities.’
⁶ Set up the standard toward Zion.
Take refuge! Do not delay!
For I will bring disaster from the north,
And great destruction.”
⁷ The lion has come up from his thicket,
And the destroyer of nations is on his way.
He has gone forth from his place
To make your land desolate.
Your cities will be laid waste,
Without inhabitant.
⁸ For this, clothe yourself with sackcloth,
Lament and wail.
For the fierce anger of the Lord
Has not turned back from us.

⁹ “And it shall come to pass in that day,” says the Lord,
“That the heart of the king shall perish,
And the heart of the princes;
The priests shall be astonished,
And the prophets shall wonder.”

¹⁰ Then I said, “Ah, Lord God!
Surely You have greatly deceived this people and Jerusalem,
Saying, ‘You shall have peace,’
Whereas the sword reaches to the heart.”

¹¹ At that time it will be said
To this people and to Jerusalem,
“A dry wind of the desolate heights blows in the wilderness
Toward the daughter of My people—
Not to fan or to cleanse—
¹² A wind too strong for these will come for Me;
Now I will also speak judgment against them.”

¹³ “Behold, he shall come up like clouds,
And his chariots like a whirlwind.
His horses are swifter than eagles.
Woe to us, for we are plundered!”

¹⁴ O Jerusalem, wash your heart from wickedness,
That you may be saved.
How long shall your evil thoughts lodge within you?
¹⁵ For a voice declares from Dan
And proclaims affliction from Mount Ephraim:
¹⁶ “Make mention to the nations,
Yes, proclaim against Jerusalem,
That watchers come from a far country
And raise their voice against the cities of Judah.
¹⁷ Like keepers of a field they are against her all around,
Because she has been rebellious against Me,” says theLord.
¹⁸ “Your ways and your doings
Have procured these things for you.
This is your wickedness,
Because it is bitter,
Because it reaches to your heart.”

Sorrow for the Doomed Nation

¹⁹ O my soul, my soul!
I am pained in my very heart!
My heart makes a noise in me;
I cannot hold my peace,
Because you have heard, O my soul,
The sound of the trumpet,
The alarm of war.
²⁰ Destruction upon destruction is cried,
For the whole land is plundered.
Suddenly my tents are plundered,
And my curtains in a moment.
²¹ How long will I see the standard,
And hear the sound of the trumpet?

²² “For My people are foolish,
They have not known Me.
They are silly children,
And they have no understanding.
They are wise to do evil,
But to do good they have no knowledge.”

²³ I beheld the earth, and indeed it was without form, and void;
And the heavens, they had no light.
²⁴ I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled,
And all the hills moved back and forth.
²⁵ I beheld, and indeed there was no man,
And all the birds of the heavens had fled.
²⁶ I beheld, and indeed the fruitful land was a wilderness,
And all its cities were broken down
At the presence of the Lord,
By His fierce anger.

²⁷ For thus says the Lord:

“The whole land shall be desolate;
Yet I will not make a full end.
²⁸ For this shall the earth mourn,
And the heavens above be black,
Because I have spoken.
I have purposed and will not relent,
Nor will I turn back from it.
²⁹ The whole city shall flee from the noise of the horsemen and bowmen.
They shall go into thickets and climb up on the rocks.
Every city shall be forsaken,
And not a man shall dwell in it.

³⁰ “And when you are plundered,
What will you do?
Though you clothe yourself with crimson,
Though you adorn yourself with ornaments of gold,
Though you enlarge your eyes with paint,
In vain you will make yourself fair;
Your lovers will despise you;
They will seek your life.

³¹ “For I have heard a voice as of a woman in labor,
The anguish as of her who brings forth her first child,
The voice of the daughter of Zion bewailing herself;
She spreads her hands, saying,
‘Woe is me now, for my soul is weary
Because of murderers!’

 

Viewers, read this please!

If you live in Israel or know people who lives there, tell them to flee the country soon as they see a great army surrounding the city of Jerusalem at the middle of the tribulation. Nobody will miss it when it's coming as this army is the 200 million mentioned in Revelation. Not all of them will be there as Jerusalem can't fit that many soldiers. 

When you see the a/c's great army surrounding Jerusalem that Jesus mentioned in Luke 21:20-21, start fleeing then, don't wait till they see the AoD set up, otherwise they're be cutting their time short.

 

Luke 21:20-21 New King James Version (NKJV)

²⁰ “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. ²¹ Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her.

 

Matthew 24:15-16 New King James Version (NKJV)

¹⁵ “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place”(whoever reads, let him understand), ¹⁶ “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

 

Take Jesus' advice in Luke 21:20 over that in Matthew 24:16, it will give the Israelis a whole month to flee the country. Flee the country and not just Jerusalem.

The a/c's army will arrive in Jerusalem on the 1260th day to stop the daily sacrifice and kill the 2 witnesses ending their 42 months proclaiming the gospel. 30 days later on the 1290th day, the AoD is set up. At that time Jerusalem will be completely destroy very soon. 

Daniel 12:11 New King James Version (NKJV)

¹¹ “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.