TheGospelSaves28 Posted January 22, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2018 As I have been reading through the Pauline Epistles (the letters wrote by Paul) I am now currently starting in Second Corinthians. As we all know, the Church of Corinth was a church that Paul had part in establishing. However, due to the culture of Corinth, they inevitably reverted back to their pagan ways and beliefs, took part in sexual immorality, divided into factions, didn’t believe in the resurrection of Christ, so on and so forth. This got me thinking about the current state of “The Church” today and how divided we are. It’s a given, not everyone has the same convictions and opinions, there are also some theological differences and disagreements, so what do we do?? Time and time again, we keep to our own denominations, worry about ourselves and our salvation (completely set in our ways and traditions) and we pretty much write off or condemn all those who don’t agree with us to a T. However, I believe Paul was facing worse circumstances in his day, but, did that cause Paul to condemn and become selfish and self righteous?? NO, because Paul understood the importance of the unification of The Church, and new how destructive division could be for The Church. So Paul wrote a letter to the Corinthians with intentions of correcting them, begging them to REPENT, while at the same time encouraging and exhorting them to become better followers of Christ!! This is what we need so desperately today as The Church!! Y’all have a good night and God bless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottA Posted January 22, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 552 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2018 Should the eye then see eye to eye with the hand or the foot? No, and that is not what is called for. Paul preached unity for the sake of one gospel going out to the ends of the earth until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled. But he also preached different spiritual gifts and a body of many [different] members. And this he did after Peter confirmed that the times of the gentiles are the time spoken of by Joel the prophet, saying that God would pour our His spirit upon all flesh. As such, it is not that the church suffers from a lack of unity, but rather a lack of identity and knowledge of what should be expected during these times. Are we not told that the love of many will wax cold, and that there are tares among the wheat? No, this is not a lack of unity, this is the fulfillment of spiritual activity on the part of both good and evil, Christ, and anti-Christ. If you do not believe it is true, walk into any would-be opposing congregation, and see if they do not love and welcome you with open arms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted January 22, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Perhaps instead of seeking the good from the tree of good and evil, we should be looking for the PERFECT. Yahweh, Yeshua and their ways. We are seeing as man sees, but the Lord sees quite differently. We should strive for that which is perfect, not the good from the knowledge of good and evil. Edited January 22, 2018 by Justin Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGospelSaves28 Posted January 22, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 I agree with you completely ScottA. However, the fact still stands that not only was the Corinthian church out of Gods will, but it was also divided, was it not? The overall point I was trying to make was too many times we stand at variance to our brothers and sisters in Christ when dealing with denomination and differences, whether convictions, opinions, or theology differences. We spend too much time arguing and debating (Examples: the Baptist are right in their conservatism, and Pentecost are wrong in their theology, Catholics practice idolatry when worshipping Mary over Jesus, so on and so forth) than we do uniting as one body in Christ with different members yes, but the fact that we need to be one body in one accord still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 22, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.33 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 22, 2018 15 hours ago, ScottA said: Should the eye then see eye to eye with the hand or the foot? No, and that is not what is called for. Paul preached unity for the sake of one gospel going out to the ends of the earth until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled. But he also preached different spiritual gifts and a body of many [different] members. And this he did after Peter confirmed that the times of the gentiles are the time spoken of by Joel the prophet, saying that God would pour our His spirit upon all flesh. As such, it is not that the church suffers from a lack of unity, but rather a lack of identity and knowledge of what should be expected during these times. Are we not told that the love of many will wax cold, and that there are tares among the wheat? No, this is not a lack of unity, this is the fulfillment of spiritual activity on the part of both good and evil, Christ, and anti-Christ. If you do not believe it is true, walk into any would-be opposing congregation, and see if they do not love and welcome you with open arms. Paul preached unity for the sake of one gospel going out to the ends of the earth until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled and that ONE GOSPLE IS JESUS , being reconciled to GOD by HIM. NOT this sorry dung pile world peace lie that many are coming under . They seek unity at the cost of truth they seek unity at the cost of doctrines of truth. They clever how they get this started. they preach some truths, but make those truths out of text to support a unity that is of satan , NOT CHRIST . My advice FLEE any church that begins this . its how it starts . then it just gets worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted January 23, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 686 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 23, 2018 19 hours ago, TheGospelSaves28 said: “The Church” today and how divided we are. 1 Corinthians chapter 11 verse 19 No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God's approval. No one knows who's right and whose wrong until Jesus comes back. James chapter 4 verse 12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGospelSaves28 Posted January 23, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 John1, we as Christians can know what is right and wrong, righteous and unrighteous, godly and ungodly, by reading Gods Word. It is a guide to living morally and righteous. Also, there’s Gods law (the Ten Commandments) along with many commandments made by Jesus that can help us in holiness and righteousness. We are to test everything to scripture and we are to challenge and hold each other accountable so that we don’t fall with the rest of the world. If we look no different than the rest of the world, then we can’t call ourselves Christian. Scripture says that we must be reborn, changed, and we will be like new creatures, dead to the flesh. This is proof that you have true salvation in Christ and that you are filled with the Holy Spirit. You will have new wants, desires, our priorities in general will change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 23, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.33 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, john1 said: 1 Corinthians chapter 11 verse 19 No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God's approval. No one knows who's right and whose wrong until Jesus comes back. James chapter 4 verse 12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor? No one knows who's right and whose wrong until Jesus comes back that is rather odd. seems like the early church should could discern between who is right or wrong the true and the false . OH WE SURE CAN. teaching like that is why er buddys holding hands and hollering and sining songs like their goes a muslim and a jew their goes a Mormon and a Baptist too. we all gods children . YEAH that sorry song. I am so happy a preacher warned out against that dung. We aint all sons and daughters of GOD. ONLY THOSE IS JESUS and it has to the THE BIBLICAL ONE or its not JESUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted January 23, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 686 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said: No one knows who's right and whose wrong until Jesus comes back that is rather odd. 1 Corinthians chapter 4 verse 5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 23, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.33 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Just now, john1 said: 1 Corinthians chapter 4 verse 5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God. But this is not talking about correction or being able to discern right from wrong. IF that were the case how often would paul have contradicted paul with all the warnings he gave . remember rightly divide. but you be blessed john. you loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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