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Should we pray for America? is it biblical? can we achieve peace and posterity. I watch a Disney show last night about a future from kid human perspective.  Can man save himself ? This is always the human perspective that is projected from Hollywood. Why did Jesus say John 17:9 I pray for the disciples: I pray not for the world. Many believers to day believe politics can fix the world. Is that possible ? can we make the world good and overcome evil? Are still looking for Jesus to come?   Your input 

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17 minutes ago, Mike Mclees said:

Should we pray for America? is it biblical? can we achieve peace and posterity. I watch a Disney show last night about a future from kid human perspective.  Can man save himself ? This is always the human perspective that is projected from Hollywood. Why did Jesus say John 17:9 I pray for the disciples: I pray not for the world. Many believers to day believe politics can fix the world. Is that possible ? can we make the world good and overcome evil? Are still looking for Jesus to come?   Your input 

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Here is an answer , YOU ALREADY KNOW .

can evil overcome evil and save itself .         NOPE .     Their will be no peace unto the wicked , thus sayeth the LORD .

Do you think , that I came to bring world peace , peace on EARTH .    I tell you NO .

Can we achieve peace and prosperity , can we achieve this peace and safety .       ABOUT THE TIME they are saying PEACE and SAFETY , then cometh SUDDEN DESTRUCTION

and they will not escape .     SURE DONT SOUND LIKE IT TO ME .   BUT IT DOES sound like THIS is what the world , the churches WOULD BE FOCUSED ON , RIGHT nigh the end.

FOR again What did paul say ,  FOR WHEN they shall say PEACE and SAFETY , THEN SUDDEN destruction comes upon them , they will NOT escape .   GODS WRATH .

So when the pope and Hollywood and emgergents and buddists and jews and muslims and lukewarm christains and secular and all are joining hand in hand

FOR UNITY , FOR world peace and safety .  WHO we think this is leading too.       THE BEAST which is to rise .

YEAH , mike,  we are running out of time and yet most see not the signs OF THE TIMES.

this all inclusive unity for world peace and safety ...............TALK about AN END DAYS SIGN .   yet most are falling for it and more and more will.

Wonder why this ol hound keeps baying out the warnings , FLEE IT , FLEE IT , its all tied into THAT DELUSOIN .   and how many hear these warnings.   NOT MANY .

THE ONLY peace we preach , IS the reconcilatoin of man to GOD , WHICH IS the peace OF THE GOSPLE.    But mark these words well,

in time , for the sake of unity , THAT TOO will be shut down ,   as it already is in many mindsets and the new false gospel of hope and peace

is let puts down what divides us ,  and unite for world peace . WHAT a dung pile message .   and most have no idea what spirit is behind it nor WHO it is leading the world as one

RIGHT TOO .

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We should pray all right .  pray for souls to come to CHRIST fast .   Pray for men to repent and come to Christ fast .

And sound out the true gospel which will OFFEND very heavy those of the all inclusive false gospel for world peace and safety .

The path this world is on ,    is now racing towards the fullness of inquity .   

and WHO rises about that time .       Lets read some Daniel.    ANd in the latter times of their kingdoms , when , WHEN , OH WHEN

the transgressors have come to the FULL,   THEN STANDS ANTI CHRIST .   folks we running out of time .  

and at the same time trangressors are filling to the full,  WE got a message which focuses on what .............WORLD PEACE

and HOW does this anti Christ destroy ,   read Daniel,  same chapter in eight ,    BY PEACE .     ITS ABOUT TO STAND , we running OUT OF TIME .

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13 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Here is an answer , YOU ALREADY KNOW .

can evil overcome evil and save itself .         NOPE .     Their will be no peace unto the wicked , thus sayeth the LORD .

Do you think , that I came to bring world peace , peace on EARTH .    I tell you NO .

Can we achieve peace and prosperity , can we achieve this peace and safety .       ABOUT THE TIME they are saying PEACE and SAFETY , then cometh SUDDEN DESTRUCTION

and they will not escape .     SURE DONT SOUND LIKE IT TO ME .   BUT IT DOES sound like THIS is what the world , the churches WOULD BE FOCUSED ON , RIGHT nigh the end.

FOR again What did paul say ,  FOR WHEN they shall say PEACE and SAFETY , THEN SUDDEN destruction comes upon them , they will NOT escape .   GODS WRATH .

So when the pope and Hollywood and emgergents and buddists and jews and muslims and lukewarm christains and secular and all are joining hand in hand

FOR UNITY , FOR world peace and safety .  WHO we think this is leading too.       THE BEAST which is to rise .

YEAH , mike,  we are running out of time and yet most see not the signs OF THE TIMES.

this all inclusive unity for world peace and safety ...............TALK about AN END DAYS SIGN .   yet most are falling for it and more and more will.

Wonder why this ol hound keeps baying out the warnings , FLEE IT , FLEE IT , its all tied into THAT DELUSOIN .   and how many hear these warnings.   NOT MANY .

THE ONLY peace we preach , IS the reconcilatoin of man to GOD , WHICH IS the peace OF THE GOSPLE.    But mark these words well,

in time , for the sake of unity , THAT TOO will be shut down ,   as it already is in many mindsets and the new false gospel of hope and peace

is let puts down what divides us ,  and unite for world peace . WHAT a dung pile message .   and most have no idea what spirit is behind it nor WHO it is leading the world as one

RIGHT TOO .

Thanks and you are Right Too

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34 minutes ago, Mike Mclees said:

Should we pray for America? is it biblical? can we achieve peace and posterity. I watch a Disney show last night about a future from kid human perspective.  Can man save himself ? This is always the human perspective that is projected from Hollywood. Why did Jesus say John 17:9 I pray for the disciples: I pray not for the world. Many believers to day believe politics can fix the world. Is that possible ? can we make the world good and overcome evil? Are still looking for Jesus to come?   Your input 

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When ever people believe they can create a perfect world they will end up creating a hell on earth.. Idealists who are determined to create a nirvana on earth always end up creating human disaster zones..  One of the tragedies of humanity is that we can imagine perfect worlds but because of the faultiness of our condition we are never able to establish a perfect society on earth.. So when ever people try to create it they only end up leading other people into a pit.. 

People need to follow God and be about loving others and doing ones best to limit their own negative effects on others.. Trying to make it the best world it can be rather then being deluded into thinking you can make a perfect world..

Idealistic people who bought the communist manifesto as the way to a perfect society ended up creating the biggest tragedies of the last century.. Even today we see nations like Venezuela, North Korea and Eritrea as examples of nations in great suffering because their socialist paradises have turned into a giant mess.. But this is not the only example of the types of idealistic thinking in this world that leads people to destruction.. We see islamic fundamentalists idealists believing if they only create a perfect sharia islamic state then they will create a golden age of a perfect Islamic society..

The jihadists of ISIS are idealists who are willing to do anything and kill anyone who stands in their way of them achieving their islamic state, in the past we have seen Stalinist red guards cause the mass starvation of millions of Ukrainians and the cultural revolutionaries of Chairman Mao in China cause the deaths of 20 million from their disastrous attempt to create a ""great leap forward"".. Even the Nazi Hitler youth where full of idealistic people wanting to create a perfect Aryan race and state..

All these idealists end up bringing nothing but mass murder and abject poverty to themselves and the peoples around them.. Their ideology's taste like sweet honey in their mouths but end up being poison in their stomachs ...

So no perfect world nirvana is ever going to be achieved on this planet while human beings are in our current state of being.. We await the coming of our LORD Jesus Christ who will transform us into the perfect beings we yearn to be so that then we will be able to be the perfect people that is needed to populate a perfect world..

So we Christians should also be Idealists,, But our idealism should be one of a future eternal existence with God.. So invest your idealism with God and you will not see your investment crash and burn like all these worldly idealistic delusions that have lead humanity to tragedy after tragedy after tragedy

 

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2 hours ago, Yowm said:

1 Timothy 2:1-4 KJV
[1] I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; [2] For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. [3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; [4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

 

Pray that all men come to Christ but we are talking about a world that is lost to sin and corruption, and the spirit of antichrist that is in the world. all men are under sin 

This world and its system are coming to judgment and man can not make the world Holy and acceptable to God. In the world we think the good can overcome the evil in their own strength. The devil is more powerful than the flesh. 

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2 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Change in the right direction starts when men come to Jesus.

I got to ask a fair and balanced question .    While I only pray for men to repent and the leaders as well.,  I notice something .

And I wonder how true it is for most men .     Right now more than ever the cry is being made, PRAY for trump , pray for the Donald , pray for the cyrus.

and they do use scrip to back it up .   pray for all that are in authority .   WHICH IS TRUE.

BUT I wonder ,  DID those same men PRAY for OBAMA.       OOOPS .        As much as I despised the evil in Obama , I did pray for him to repent

and as much as I see the deception getting played out in the Right ,   still I pray for those leaders as well.  TO REPENT .  

DID you pray for Obama like you do trump.    Its a fair and balanced question .  IF NOT ,    we might be trusting in men .    See I don't trust either of them as far as I could throw them .

NOT that I would .     But this seems to only work for those whose man is in power .    And that can be very , very scary .     Its why I just pray they repent and come to Christ .

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1 minute ago, Yowm said:

It's a fair question. I was sort of lulled to sleep about praying for my leaders until Obama. Then I really saw the need. I admit though, I was praying more that the Lord would keep America safe from Obama and now with the shadow government and all that I pray for Trump. 

Well ,   it sure is okay to pray for people TO NOT be deceived by those leaders .    So no fault on that .     But I hope you understand its why  I also pray for the conservatives

NOT to be deceived by TRUMP and HIS RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE .    I am warning us all,    Those who prayed that men into office

those main false ones , like Kenneth and paula , and so on ,   THEY big on this all inclusive unity ,   and they had no problems with this INTEFAITH for religious TOLERANCE.

ITS a sham yowm   .    Do not buy into it for a second .    THEY did it yowm.    aLL is not as it seems .   Hillery could not have deiceved the right into interfaith .

BUT TRUMP CAN and he can do it UNDER RELIGOUS TOLERANCE .    we better watch out .     You look this up for yourself .  SEE what they did in march.

And the right bought it ,   not all , but  more will because the focus is so deceptive .  THE RIGHT , or most of them I should say ,  IS SO scared to be persecuted .

THEY cried DAY and NIGHT for a man to save  them from persecution . WHEN THEY SHOULD have been praying for repentance and having no fear of coming persecution.

WHICH I add was building faster under ones like Obama and hillery.     BUT what a scam .    The dark one , satan,  KNOWS how to deceive and he will use mens fears

against them TO DO IT .     WE better FOLLOW ONLY CHRIST .    I know you know this .    But I am worried for so many now .

I promise it would be and have been far better to have been persecuted FOR JESUS , than to be deceived FOR RELIGOUS TOLERANCE PROTECTION .   RIGHT INTO INTERFATIH .

its a sham  yowm .    Its a tricky one .  BUT , if our eyes are on CHRIST ,   notice how simple it is TO spot even the most deceptive deception .  WE better return to our bibles

and JESUS , cause if we have any hope in man ,  WE are about to be DECIEVED real bad .    

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1 minute ago, Yowm said:

What did they do in March???

I will go and try and find it .  SO I can present it as clear as I seen it back then .

Their may have been a few things I don't remember as clearly about it .    SO I had rather find it and bring it .  

I clearly remember this  though,     IT was all about joining with other religions for The fight for religious tolerance . INTERFAITH was all in it .

but let me go find it , so you all can read it for yourselves .    I thought you had read it .   

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17 hours ago, Yowm said:

Change in the right direction starts when men come to Jesus.

Change comes to every  person who chooses to let Christ in their life. He never said the whole world would receive Him. If they did then the whole world could be saved, but as long as satan is the prince of this world and sin is in mens heart the ax must be laid to the root. Donald Trump can not fix the world or anyone else can fix this present world . Jesus said he is coming back for His bride then the unbelieving world will burn.

You have heard of Babylon which is the comprises  the whole world system, religious, political and commercial. All under satan and the spirit of antichrist. This is why Jesus said I pray not for the world John 17:9  Love not the world or the things of it If anyman love the the world the love of the Father is not I Him. So can the church fix the world?  Only when Jesus comes. and the New Jerusalem comes down

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