The Barbarian Posted February 26, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2020 8 hours ago, dad2 said: The bible teaches that God created man and woman. You'll admit that much, yes. But you don't approve of the way He did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhchristian Posted February 26, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,488 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 1,325 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, The Barbarian said: The YE creationist revision of Genesis is very new. 8 hours ago, dad2 said: Lies of the serpent about God being a liar are not new. I don't think you're calling God a liar, exactly. Rather you've convinced yourself that your new doctrines are part of Genesis. All the same lies as before.... We will call you the Uncreative troll. That's right, You just got NPC'd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted February 26, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, dhchristian said: All the same lies as before.... We will call you the Uncreative troll. That's right, You just got NPC'd... Don't get mad. Get smart. Instead of venting your frustration, find some evidence and show us that it fits your beliefs. That would help. Worth a try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted February 26, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2020 11 hours ago, dad2 said: Define the word evolution as used here. Are you referring to observed adaptations such as to bacteria or whatever today, or are you referring to the imaginary long progression of evolving that led to man and animals today that is claimed in the TOE? As you learned, even YE creationists who are familiar with biology, admit that there is "very good evidence for macroevolutionary theory", "gobs and gobs of it." They just prefer their own reading of Genesis. Who can argue with that? An honest approach, and one I'm sure God would approve of, even if He knows they got creation wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhchristian Posted February 26, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,488 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 1,325 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, The Barbarian said: Don't get mad. Get smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted February 26, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,504 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 hours ago, The Barbarian said: Quote The YE creationist revision of Genesis is very new. Belief in the flood and Adam in anything but new. The approx times they lived are known. Inserting imaginary millions of years and assaulting plain meanings and common sense and traditional beliefs and interpretations to try and justify disbelief in creation is new. Quote I don't think you're calling God a liar, exactly. Rather you've convinced yourself that your new doctrines are part of Genesis. What is part of Genesis and the rest of the bible is that God created all things including the world and man. I think you have shown that you do not really believe that. Rather than God forming a man like a potter forms clay, you seem to believe that man descended from the same ancestors as worms. Rather than believing God made Adam sleep one day (you cannot sleep for millions of years by the way) and then took a part of the man's insides (usually referred to as a rib or bone) to create a woman, you believe something else. Whatever you want to pretend a day means in Genesis, it was in a day that God put Adam to sleep deeply. It was in that day He made Eve also. Does that really sound like TOE to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted February 26, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,504 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 hours ago, The Barbarian said: Quote Barbarian observes: Evolutionary theory says man came from other primates. You should; you've been repeatedly told this, but you keep pretending that evolutionary theory says we evolved from flatworms. It might be better if you stopped being deceptive. "Flatworms Are Oldest Living Ancestors To Those Of Us With Right And Left Sides, Researchers Report In Science" https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/03/990322062150.htm So TOE does not start with and stop at the claim man came from primates. Be honest. 4 hours ago, The Barbarian said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted February 26, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,504 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2020 3 hours ago, dhchristian said: All the same lies as before.... We will call you the Uncreative troll. That's right, You just got NPC'd... I see two posters were quoted. Which one was the troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted February 26, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,504 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, The Barbarian said: Quote ..even YE creationists who are familiar with biology, admit that there is "very good evidence for macroevolutionary theory", The term macroevolutionary is not clear. That seems to indicate a degree of evolution that is quite high. I could see how a high degree of adapting and evolving may have happened, maybe blurring the lines of what modern science thinks of as groups of life (species etc) But we would need the guy you are quoting to expound on what he means. Does he mean in the fossil record? If so, that evidence is inadmissible. What the fossils represent entirely depends o what nature existed. If a different nature was in place, then we could not expect that most animals would have been able to leave remains, and therefore even be in the fossil record. Quote An honest approach, and one I'm sure God would approve of, even if He knows they got creation wrong. God wants us to believe Him over man and our own wisdom. He would not want us to blindly believe that the fossil record was evidence that most animals and man was not here since creation. The question you should have been asking was why science had it wrong. Instead we see some 'bible believers' trying to show us how God got it wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhchristian Posted February 26, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,488 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 1,325 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, dad2 said: I see two posters were quoted. Which one was the troll? After exposing Barbarians claim the YEC is a "modern invention" he still uses this Bogus claim on you, which means he is reposting talking points he has heard from higher ups similar to NPC's who quote the same things over and over again. Edited February 26, 2020 by George Removed comment of being a troll ... this doesnt help the conversation of trying to recover someone in error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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