Walter and Deborah Posted October 3, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 14 Topic Count: 2,271 Topics Per Day: 0.50 Content Count: 4,396 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,031 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/13/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1947 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) On 9/28/2019 at 4:09 AM, Neighbor said: Parable? Though much of the writing is poetic, I do not see Job as allegory, nor parable, but instead the account much of it in poetic form of a real person. Amen, I agree with part of the above, but have you all looked at ? ◄ Job 27 ► King James Bible Par ▾ Job Affirms his Integrity 1Moreover Job continued his parable, and said, 2As God liveth, who hath taken away my judgment; and the Almighty, who hath vexed my soul; 3All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils; 4My lips shall not speak wickedness, nor my tongue utter deceit. 5God forbid that I should justify you: till I die I will not remove mine integrity from me. 6My righteousness I hold fast, and will not let it go: my heart shall not reproach me so long as I live. The State of the Godless 7Let mine enemy be as the wicked, and he that riseth up against me as the unrighteous. 8For what is the hope of the hypocrite, though he hath gained, when God taketh away his soul? 9Will God hear his cry when trouble cometh upon him? 10Will he delight himself in the Almighty? will he always call upon God? 11I will teach you by the hand of God: that which is with the Almighty will I not conceal. 12Behold, all ye yourselves have seen it; why then are ye thus altogether vain? 13This is the portion of a wicked man with God, and the heritage of oppressors, which they shall receive of the Almighty. 14If his children be multiplied, it is for the sword: and his offspring shall not be satisfied with bread. 15Those that remain of him shall be buried in death: and his widows shall not weep. 16Though he heap up silver as the dust, and prepare raiment as the clay; 17He may prepare it, but the just shall put it on, and the innocent shall divide the silver. 18He buildeth his house as a moth, and as a booth that the keeper maketh. 19The rich man shall lie down, but he shall not be gathered: he openeth his eyes, and he is not. 20Terrors take hold on him as waters, a tempest stealeth him away in the night. 21The east wind carrieth him away, and he departeth: and as a storm hurleth him out of his place. 22For God shall cast upon him, and not spare: he would fain flee out of his hand. 23Men shall clap their hands at him, and shall hiss him out of his place. Edited October 3, 2019 by Walter and Deborah More info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted October 3, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 962 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,734 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,121 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted October 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, Walter and Deborah said: Moreover Job continued his parable, Hi, Yes. Thanks for highlighting it. I guess one may be addressing Job's parable, and not that Job is a parable or allegorical tale. I missed it. Now I will get to reread your message for better understanding. That's good, I get to study Job's parable to see if it is like the parables of our Lord- where ( as I understand it) the speaking in parables was not to enlighten the immediate audience, but to speak past them for they will never understand, and instead is intended to set up enlightenment for another group, at another time. Again, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter and Deborah Posted October 3, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 14 Topic Count: 2,271 Topics Per Day: 0.50 Content Count: 4,396 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,031 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/13/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1947 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Neighbor said: Hi, Yes. Thanks for highlighting it. I guess one may be addressing Job's parable, and not that Job is a parable or allegorical tale. I missed it. Now I will get to reread your message for better understanding. That's good, I get to study Job's parable to see if it is like the parables of our Lord- where ( as I understand it) the speaking in parables was not to enlighten the immediate audience, but to speak past them for they will never understand, and instead is intended to set up enlightenment for another group, at another time. Again, thanks. Amen, As I have taken heed to myself again over this issue, I begin to learn more insights in prayer being open minded, I was searching for more views also. Thanks. Love always, Walter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Know Jah Posted October 3, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 294 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 129 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 3, 2019 Agree with Royal Neighbor, I view Job as a real person. Recall James 5:11 even mentions Job as one to imitate his endurance. Endurance is such a need quality for Christians more than ever today in this troubled world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatHaldol Posted October 4, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/22/1956 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I always thought it fascinating that all Job’s children were taken from him...but his wife remained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter and Deborah Posted October 4, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 14 Topic Count: 2,271 Topics Per Day: 0.50 Content Count: 4,396 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,031 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/13/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1947 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Know Jah said: Agree with Royal Neighbor, I view Job as a real person. Recall James 5:11 even mentions Job as one to imitate his endurance. Endurance is such a need quality for Christians more than ever today in this troubled world. Amen Edited October 4, 2019 by Walter and Deborah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter and Deborah Posted October 4, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 14 Topic Count: 2,271 Topics Per Day: 0.50 Content Count: 4,396 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,031 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/13/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1947 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 8 hours ago, StatHaldol said: I always thought it fascinating that all Job’s children were taken from him...but his wife remained. My guess is that there is a reason for everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Know Jah Posted October 4, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 294 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 129 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 4, 2019 Also, on Job's wife. We forget that Job's wife lost 10 children also and lost her economic standing etc. And to see her husband go through all the pain physically that he had to endure she surely was depressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter and Deborah Posted October 4, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 14 Topic Count: 2,271 Topics Per Day: 0.50 Content Count: 4,396 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,031 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/13/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1947 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 52 minutes ago, Know Jah said: Also, on Job's wife. We forget that Job's wife lost 10 children also and lost her economic standing etc. And to see her husband go through all the pain physically that he had to endure she surely was depressed. Amen, Surely, that was something to experience, but the LORD must have brought them out of their afflictions in due time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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