Fisher of Men Posted June 23, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/23/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 23, 2005 What Noah Could Have Said But Didn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zayit Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 It was good and I was in agreement until I saw this: I tithe and pray every Sunday; surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsth Posted June 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 297 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 5,586 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 193 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/09/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted June 23, 2005 It was good and I was in agreement until I saw this: I tithe and pray every Sunday; surely <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dear Zayit, You understand he is talking about the false understandings of today's congregationalist, as to what gives them good standing before the Lord. In His Love, Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zayit Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Yes, of course, but to use a falsehood to prove another I just don't get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerioke Posted June 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,850 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1911 Share Posted June 23, 2005 If you have to concern yourself with works then there is something wrong. Works is a fruit of the Spirit and is God's to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabowd Posted June 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,489 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 23, 2005 That article has some traces of truth, but is mostly dangerously wrong. I may have to address it in two seperate posts because of how the quotes work: The following things that Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabowd Posted June 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,489 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 23, 2005 This is a classic example of creating a totally different message than what the author intended by taking words out of their context. It is also a major fulfillment of the prophecies of two apostles: Peter prophesied concerning false teachers who would deny Jesus and bring in heresies that would bring damnation on those who accept them. And Paul prophesied that in the latter times some would depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared with a hot iron. See 2 Pet. 2:1-3 1 Tim. 4:1,2 Matt. 10:32,33 Mark 8:38 John 5:29. This exemplifies Satan's extremely skillful ability to subtly manipulate words and change meanings. This successful operation of severing works from salvation is as fatal as severing the spirit from the body. See James 2:14, 20-26. What is scary is how easily you have twisted Scripture to suit your theology...and then you alienate all others by labeling them "false teachers" and "seducing spirits" if they teach otherwise. This is a very very dangerous practice, and again....eerily characteristic of a cult. It's one thing to encourage other believers to obey, to "spur one another on to love and good works" as Hebrews 10:24 tells us to do....but for you to write such an article, with such a heavy slant towards obedience, then define what you believe obedience looks like....then to further declare that any other teaching is the "doctrine of devils" is good reason for us to recognize it as extremely dangerous theology. As with most dangerous doctrines, there is just enough truth to confuse readers and sway them to this belief. Was it not Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M45510G1C Posted June 23, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 627 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 23, 2005 Great, great article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christ's Free Servant Posted June 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 197 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,461 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/18/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/31/1949 Share Posted June 23, 2005 GENUINE FAITH Let Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansasdad Posted June 23, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,227 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/19/1964 Share Posted June 23, 2005 GENUINE FAITH Let Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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