enoob57 Posted October 18, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,467 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted October 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, The Barbarian said: Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. Sabbath is symbolic of the last day, not the last day. You can make symbolism out of it however the Bible does not... show me where the Scripture allow for it to be symbolic in Exodus passage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted October 18, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, one.opinion said: I don't think anyone has suggested that the Cambrian Explosion is not a puzzle without a full set of answers. What I am arguing against is the persistent claim that there is no evidence for the existence of ancestors. That is just plain not true. There is substantial evidence of fossils that pre-date the Cambrian, which is strong evidence of life forms present on the planet over millions (and even billions) of years, and not all coming into existence in a 144-hour period. Exactly so. Before Ediacaran fauna were known, it was thought that the Cambrian marked the appearance of complex living things. Now we know that complex animals, including some that appear to be primitive sponges, arthropods, and so on, existed long before their assumed appearance in the Cambrian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted October 18, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2019 Barbarian observes: Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. Sabbath is symbolic of the last day, not the last day. 3 minutes ago, enoob57 said: You can make symbolism out of it As you learned, the Bible makes that symbolism. 4 minutes ago, enoob57 said: show me where the Scripture allow for it to be symbolic As you see, the text itself does that. There cannot be literal mornings and evenings without a sun to have them. And Exodus merely repeats the figurative text in ordering the sabbath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted October 18, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, enoob57 said: No this is not possible for you have God building upon death and that is heresy plain and simple No, you're just adding your own ideas to scripture here. Christians are not obligated to believe them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted October 18, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.10 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, enoob57 said: Christ is the life not death and It was Him that created all.... Yes, but that says nothing about whether living organisms He created ever died. Exactly zero of your references are referring to death of organisms. It is a massive, and unwarranted, inference to take what the Bible actually says to mean that nothing ever died before Adam’s sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 18, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,467 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, The Barbarian said: Barbarian observes: Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. Sabbath is symbolic of the last day, not the last day. As you learned, the Bible makes that symbolism. As you see, the text itself does that. There cannot be literal mornings and evenings without a sun to have them. And Exodus merely repeats the figurative text in ordering the sabbath. the error you are making is placing The Creator subject to His creation … God has no restrictive elements and clearly the Scripture supports this of God Luke 1:37 37 For with God nothing shall be impossible. KJV for saying God cannot have unless there also is something else is to make created substance co equal to the Creator of and that is just foolish.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 18, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,467 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted October 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, one.opinion said: Yes, but that says nothing about whether living organisms He created ever died. Exactly zero of your references are referring to death of organisms. It is a massive, and unwarranted, inference to take what the Bible actually says to mean that nothing ever died before Adam’s sin. clearly we are of a different mind in this... The Corinthian passage is referring to physical death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted October 18, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.10 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, enoob57 said: The Corinthian passage is referring to physical death... So, does this mean you are admitting that the other verses are not, and are therefore irrelevant to your point? Could you please show where the Corinthian passage states that no other living things died? You are adding your own interpretation to what the Bible actually says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 18, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,467 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted October 18, 2019 no we are of a different mind and no amount of wrangling of words will change this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted October 18, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,051 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2019 Barbarian observes: Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. Sabbath is symbolic of the last day, not the last day. As you learned, the Bible makes that symbolism. As you see, the text itself does that. There cannot be literal mornings and evenings without a sun to have them. And Exodus merely repeats the figurative text in ordering the sabbath. 1 hour ago, enoob57 said: the error you are making is placing The Creator subject to His creation … No, that's wrong, too. God is truth and not the author of confusion. Logically, one cannot have mornings and evenings without a sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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