Coronavirus

[Novus]

Hi Lisa

Jesus commented on two tragic events that occured in and near Jerusalem when he was on Earth. The first was regarding a group of worshippers killed by Pontius Pilot - they came to the temple to sacrifice. The second was when a tower (at Siloam - near Jerusalem) collapsed and 18 people were killed as a result. You can read about these in Luke 18. From these two events (albeit not "natural" and widespread) as Covid 19, from what Jesus said, we can extrapolate certain lessons that can be applied to any tragedy (including Covid 19).

First, We should not assume that the victims died because they are worst sinners than everyone else.

Second, what is interesting is that Jesus mentions that it is important that everyone needs to repent. Repent or perish (a future more terrifying "death" in a place known as the Lake of Fire) - an event far more to be concerned about than Covid 19:

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (Luke 13:3, 5).

If only bad things happen to bad people then we all deserve to be victims:

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. (Romans 3:10-12).

Making sure of our readiness:

And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: (2 Thessalonians 1: 7-8).

There seem to be two groups among the guilty - those who have not responded rightly to God and those who have not responded rightly to the gospel.

1. Seek the Lord while he may be found - Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. (Isaiah 55:6-7).
2. God rewards those who diligently seek him -  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. (Hebrews 11:6).
3. Draw near to God and he will draw near to you - Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. (James 4:8).
4. Put your trust (to believe) in Jesus - Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: (John 11:25).

Covid 19 presents a significant concern to us now. It has drawn attention to our current mortality and it pales in comparison to a future tragedy for those who ignore putting things right with God now. If you have it in your heart to draw near to God now, then you are most likely responding to a calling. Continue to search for him, pray to him and draw near to him so that he may draw near to you.

I hope you found this useful.

Best.

Edited April 9, 2020 by Novus

[Novus]

Hi Lisa

Jesus commented on two tragic events that occured in and near Jerusalem when he was on Earth. The first was regarding a group of worshippers killed by Pontius Pilot - they came to the temple to sacrifice. The second was when a tower (at Siloam - near Jerusalem) collapsed and 18 people were killed as a result. You can read about these in Luke 18. From these two events (albeit not "natural" and widespread) as Covid 19, from what Jesus said, we can extrapolate certain lessons that can be applied to any tragedy (including Covid 19).

First, We should not assume that the victims died because they are worst sinners than everyone else.

Second, what is interesting is that Jesus mentions that it is important that everyone needs to repent. Repent or perish (a future more terrifying "death" in a place known as the Lake of Fire) - an event far more to be concerned about than Covid 19:

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (Luke 13:3, 5).

If only bad things happen to bad people then we all deserve to be victims:

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. (Romans 3:10-12).

Making sure of our readiness:

And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: (2 Thessalonians 1: 7-8).

There seem to be two groups among the guilty - those who have not responded rightly to God and those who have not responded rightly to the gospel.

1. Seek the Lord while he may be found - Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. (Isaiah 55:6-7).
2. God rewards those who diligently seek him -  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. (Hebrews 11:6).
3. Draw near to God and he will draw near to you - Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. (James 4:8).
4. Put your trust (to believe) in Jesus - Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: (John 11:25).

Covid 19 presents a significant concern to us now. It has drawn attention to our current mortality and it pales in comparison to a future tragedy for those who ignore putting things right with God now. If you have it in your heart to draw near to God now, then you are most likely responding to a calling. Continue to search for him, pray to him and draw near to him so that he may draw near to you.

I hope you found this useful.

Best.

[Novus]

oops - posted the same message twice...

[Absolem]

You seriously need to reexamine your heart and motives because to say or think something like that is evil.

It reminds me of this verse.

⁵⁴ When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, “Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them^[a]?”⁵⁵ But Jesus turned and rebuked them.

 

 

[Novus]

4 minutes ago, Absolem said:

You seriously need to reexamine your heart and motives because to say or think something like that is evil.

It reminds me of this verse.

⁵⁴ When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, “Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them^[a]?”⁵⁵ But Jesus turned and rebuked them.

 

 

What was said specifically that came across as being "evil"?

[LonerAndy]

4 hours ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

Just an observation, not a judgment. The demoncrat governor of New Jersey is making it mandatory for everyone, small business owners as well to wear a mask and gloves. Do you think that's ok?

Yes.  All rights are reserved to the state.  If you state elects someone, who says all'ya'all got to wear a mask, then it is up to that state to vote out that governor and replace him.

Now that is not ok for the Federal Government.  The constitution gives no such power to the Federal Government, to dictate to the states.  But the state absolutely has the right to run itself.

[LonerAndy]

On 4/7/2020 at 6:53 PM, Lisajf said:

Will coronavirus kill all serious sinners?

Lisa x

Let em put this another way.  Jesus indirectly answered this very question:

Luke 13:4

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Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them--do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem?
I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.

The point is, the tower of Siloam falling was not because everyone outside the tower was good, and everyone inside the tower was bad.

Equally, there are numerous times in the Bible, where good people died.

Again, we believe in something called a natural disaster.   Bad stuff happens in this sin cursed world.  Simply follow the Lord to the best of your ability, and in the end, things will turn out good, either here or in Heaven.

[Justin Adams]

On 4/7/2020 at 11:53 PM, Lisajf said:

Will coronavirus kill all serious sinners?

Lisa x

No. This is a wakeup call for us all and allows us some Grace to get our acts together for when it really gets so bad we will be speechless.

Imagine how this caught us all by surprise. The end will also take us by surprise too. So get your mind in order, get your priorities sorted out and decide ahead of time what is worth preserving. Major institutions, like huge churches, may be a thing of the past and so grassroots house to house meeting may become the norm. This dispersal gives us all a chance and the demise of the 501(c3) charity exemptions will make a difference to government moneys that seek to control us. Already they have passed (in most States) laws that curtail growing crops and animals for general consumption. This was no accident either, so we have already been somewhat controlled while we were not looking. Let us beware of other laws and changes that might soon be passed forbidding our independent survival.

Be warned and get ready now.

 

Edited April 9, 2020 by Justin Adams

[Refresher]

2 hours ago, Novus said:

Hi Lisa

Jesus commented on two tragic events that occured in and near Jerusalem when he was on Earth. The first was regarding a group of worshippers killed by Pontius Pilot - they came to the temple to sacrifice. The second was when a tower (at Siloam - near Jerusalem) collapsed and 18 people were killed as a result. You can read about these in Luke 18. From these two events (albeit not "natural" and widespread) as Covid 19, from what Jesus said, we can extrapolate certain lessons that can be applied to any tragedy (including Covid 19).

First, We should not assume that the victims died because they are worst sinners than everyone else.

Second, what is interesting is that Jesus mentions that it is important that everyone needs to repent. Repent or perish (a future more terrifying "death" in a place known as the Lake of Fire) - an event far more to be concerned about than Covid 19:

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (Luke 13:3, 5).

If only bad things happen to bad people then we all deserve to be victims:

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. (Romans 3:10-12).

Making sure of our readiness:

And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: (2 Thessalonians 1: 7-8).

There seem to be two groups among the guilty - those who have not responded rightly to God and those who have not responded rightly to the gospel.

1. Seek the Lord while he may be found - Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. (Isaiah 55:6-7).
2. God rewards those who diligently seek him -  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. (Hebrews 11:6).
3. Draw near to God and he will draw near to you - Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. (James 4:8).
4. Put your trust (to believe) in Jesus - Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: (John 11:25).

Covid 19 presents a significant concern to us now. It has drawn attention to our current mortality and it pales in comparison to a future tragedy for those who ignore putting things right with God now. If you have it in your heart to draw near to God now, then you are most likely responding to a calling. Continue to search for him, pray to him and draw near to him so that he may draw near to you.

I hope you found this useful.

Best.

Hello Novus, thank you to your insights about Covid, very well said and I am soo much agree to you and to the scripture...."Draw near to God and He will draw near to you."...Stay blessed

[Refresher]

Hi Liza,

Welcome to worthy and nice to meet you.

Hope you find and acceptable to you the explanation of Novus as I am agreed from all his insights and supported scriptures that links to  Covid that you worried about.

Stay blessed and Jesus loves you.