Daniel Marsh Posted May 14, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,090 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 501 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/15/1956 Share Posted May 14, 2020 how wide the path? (10000 * 10000) + (1000 * 1000) = 101,000,000 Revelation 5:11 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW) Then I heard the voices of many angels, the four living creatures, and the leaders surrounding the throne. They numbered ( ten thousand times ten thousand ) and + (thousands times thousands). Matthew 7:13-14 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW) “Enter through the narrow gate because the gate and road that lead to destruction are wide. Many enter through the wide gate. 14 But the narrow gate and the road that lead to life are full of trouble. Only a few people find the narrow gate. "“Modern” Homo sapiens (that is, people who were roughly like we are now) first walked the Earth about 50,000 years ago. Since then, more than 108 billion members of our species have ever been born, according to estimates by Population Reference Bureau (PRB). " https://www.prb.org/howmanypeoplehaveeverlivedonearth/ ((10000 * 10000) + (1000 * 1000)) / 108 billion = 0.00093518518 Not even one percent of the people who ever lived goes to heaven. Ouch, we need to go out and witness more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 14, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.76 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 14, 2020 In Revelation 5: 11-12 This scene is described as concentric circles, with the Lamb in the center. He is surrounded by the living creatures and the elders, with an innumerable host of angels around them on every side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behold Posted May 14, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 7 Topic Count: 87 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/30/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Daniel Marsh said: “Enter through the narrow gate because the gate and road that lead to destruction are wide. Many enter through the wide gate. 14 But the narrow gate and the road that lead to life are full of trouble. Only a few people find the narrow gate. Jesus is the Narrow Way as He is THe ONLY WAY To God. John 14:6. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."" So, that is a very narrow "WAY". (Gate) The Broad way to destruction is all other paths, and all other means, and all other methods, and all other ways that RELIGION says you can come to God. Edited May 14, 2020 by Behold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Marsh Posted May 14, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,090 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 501 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/15/1956 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Traveler said: Now who said that number was only made up of humans. I heard every creature in heaven, on earth, under the earth, and on the sea. The got the idea from verse 13, since we do not know how many angels, I went with a guess on human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted May 14, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,825 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,815 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 14, 2020 Revelation 5:11 is speaking of heavenly beings, i.e. angels - not saved humans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineedhugs Posted May 15, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 103 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 54 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/13/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 15, 2020 Revelation 5:11 talks about angels, not saved humans. However revelation 7:9 says there will be an innumerable number of people in heaven that no one can count. The bible also says in Matthew that wide is the gate that leads to destruction and few go to heaven by the narrow gate. However, that's a few go to heaven out of billions and billions of people that God has or will make so there will be still a massive heavenly population. There's currently 7.8 billion people on the earth. If all died right now lets say 5% go to heaven. That's 390 million people that would go to heaven, if i calculated it right in my head. That is not factoring in past and future humans. Also, about the homo sapiens thing. The bible says humans have only existed for 6000 years, the earth may or may not be old like scientists say. But according to the bible humans have only been alive for 6000 years tracing the geologies back to Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted May 15, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,825 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,815 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 15, 2020 @leah777 - You questioned my post as if you did not understand what I was saying. 1. The OP is stating that he knows the actual percentage of humanity that will be saved. That's impossible. 2. He did this by making a mathematical algorithm from Revelation 5:11 - turn the verse into a literal statement of numbers and math. 3. The verse is not about people. It's about angels and heavenly beings. It's saying, figuratively, that you cannot count the number of God's heavenly beings. 4. The verse is not about a percentage of humans that will be saved. 5. He is right about one thing. We need to be out sharing the gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Marsh Posted May 20, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,090 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 501 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/15/1956 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 Revelation 5:11-12 J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS) The hymn of the whole company of Heaven 11-12 Then in my vision I heard the voices of many angels encircling the throne, the living creatures and the elders. There were myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands, crying in a great voice, “Worthy is the Lamb who was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom, and strength and honour and glory and blessing!” Revelation 5:11 Amplified Bible (AMP) 11 Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne and [the voice] of the living creatures and the elders; and they numbered myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands (innumerable), Revelation 5:11 Good News Translation (GNT) 11 Again I looked, and I heard angels, thousands and millions of them! They stood around the throne, the four living creatures, and the elders, There were translation errors in the text I quoted. Revelation 5:11 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW) 11 Then I heard the voices of many angels, the four living creatures, and the leaders surrounding the throne. They numbered ten thousand times ten thousand and thousands times thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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