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  1. I hold the same belief that Jesus is God. Jesus is not the Father nor the Spirit, but he is the Son. All three have unique tasks and some same tasks, but all three, together in a way that we cannot understand, are God. They are one. I got this from the Bible. Romans 9:5 = "To them [Jews] belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen." John 1:1 = "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 20:28 = Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 2 Peter 1:1 = "Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ." There's more, but I will stop here. Yes, Jesus is Lord. He is also the Lamb, the Lion, the Way, the Truth, the Life, the Creator, and so much more. And the Bible states by various authors that he is God. He is not the Father, nor the Spirit, he is the Son. They are ONE - God.
  2. You did ask. I just don't know. I voted for Trump twice. Didn't feel too bad about it the first time. Wanted to throw up the second time - was physically ill about it. But everyone kept pushing me - you HAVE TO VOTE FOR TRUMP!!!! - they screamed at me. They made me feel like a moron if I questioned anything about him. And I still have MANY trepidations about him. This third time? I have absolutely no idea. I'll have to pray about it. November comes, God alone willing, we will just have to see.
  3. Jesus, to me, was: [1] obedient to the Father [2] compassionate [the Bible describes him that way several times] [3] always speaks the truth [4] sinless [5] a servant AND a Godly leader These are what come to my mind.
  4. I agree with FJK. "Hedging your bets" does appeal to the flesh and doesn't necessarily lead to a conversion. There ARE people who say, "Well I walked down the aisle at church and got dunked in the baptistry - so I'm good to go." No, they aren't. Take some time to pray to the Lord about what to say, google evangelism to the stubbornly lost, get ideas from people here, and PRACTICE your OWN testimony and statement of beliefs based on the Word. I also agree with Who Me that asking this person what HIS beliefs are and asking for his evidence and why he believes this way. I'll pray for you.
  5. You've taken the words from my mouth, my brother from another mother.
  6. He had the "law" of don't eat the fruit of that particular tree. Why did he do it if not deceived? He just decided to disobey. She did. He chose to also.
  7. You misunderstand. I am just quoting 1 Timothy 2:14. Eve was deceived and became the transgresor. The devil did not make her sin. She chose to out of deception.
  8. Short answer - Eve was deceived. The devil's deception involved convincing her that God's words were incorrect. "Did God REALLY say?" Her sin began when she had a conversation with the devil and listened to him. It wasn't because she was stupid, just deceived. The devil didn't start with her because she was weaker than Adam. Adam whom the Bible was "with her" just deliberately disobeyed. Jesus says that the whole of humanity is deceived by the devil. Revelation 12:9. And after that initial deliberate disobedience, I'm sure that Adam was deceived in sin, too, during his lifetime. Two things: [1] Yes, Eve saw that the fruit was pleasant to the eye and good for food. But remember, God MADE it that way. Genesis 2:9. There's more to this than meets the eye. There's a sermon somewhere in that. [2] I've taught many times the relationship between Eve's sin, Jesus' temptation, and 1 John 2:15-17. So you are correct there making a correlation. In my opinion, the devil used and uses those tactics because those were the things that caused him to fall. He only uses what he knows. He was full of beauty and became prideful because of it. Ezekiel 28:12-13 and 17. Pride of life and lust of the eye. He thought he was higher than God. Isaiah 14:12-14 Pride of life
  9. Yes, and diabetics about chocolate cake... ....and feuding in-laws about self-righteousness ....and porn addicts about the porn ....and siblings about jealousy ....and so on and so on.
  10. Before I tell you the story, let me share the teaching from the book of Romans. Chapter 7. Verses 4-6. The whole chapter is about, as a Christian, being released from the Law. Here are verses 4-6: "Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code." OK, I'm getting to the story - one more thing. Some Christians think that the devil makes us sin - but he can't. He CAN plant the idea in the heart and mind and tell you if you don't DO or HAVE that thing that you will just die!! That's a lie from hell. You have the free will and strength in Christ to resist such things. The Bible says in the book of James [the half-brother of Jesus] that sin comes from our own evil desires that are already there. Paul says, in Romans here, that the LAW or any rule of conduct "arouses our evil desires". What? So are laws and rules a bad thing? No way. OK, the story.... I was once teaching 6th grade a LOOONG time ago. Before school computers. Before Google. It was the end of the year and we were preparing to take a few classes to the park for a field day. There was, next to the park, a Coca-Cola museum, a Bible museum, and a famous home with all sorts of interesting things and artifacts. EXPENSIVE THINGS. They all belonged to the same family. One artifact was a Ming vase - at LEAST from the 14th or 15th century! The class perked up for a few minutes at my telling that. But one young 6th grade boy was spellbound by that. As I said, it was before school computers and before Google. He checked out every "M" encyclopedia from the library and read all he could about Ming vases and the Ming dynasty. He asked me a whole HOST of questions in the days before us going. He was fascinated by the whole thing. While he was fascinated, I was getting an uneasy feeling about the whole thing, because I could tell that he was going to want to put HIS HANDS on the vase!! Nothing there was covered or far from touching ability, but everyone KNEW NOT to touch anything in the house. They explained it there and I discussed it in the classroom a week before going. I made a hard and fast rule. TOUCH NOTHING. The school nor I could afford to replace anything there. Whew! All my rule did was to "arouse his passions" for that vase!! Just like Paul said. Well, I made sure that I went with his group. We walked from the park across the street to see house and museum and Coca-Cola memorabilia. When we were in the room with the Ming vase, I made sure that I spotted it right off the bat. He spotted it too. Sharp kid. The tour guide gave a good speech in the room and then led us out to the next room. She asked the class to make a line and they did and followed her. My young man whom I worried about made sure - very sneakily and casually that he was the LAST in line! So I made sure that I was right behind him. I'm not sure how stealthily I did so. I didn't know what he might do. Pick it up? Toss it around? Shake it? There was just a soft velvet rope in front of the shelf that it was on. NOW WHAT GOOD DID THAT DO?!?! I didn't know what I was going to do. Scream at him? Tackle him? Distract him? Well the line was slow and just when the guide turned the corner out of that room and into the next - she couldn't be seen by us in the back of the line. And he took his chance. He didn't grab it. He didn't place his hands on it. He simply and softly reached out his left index finger and ever so gently touched the vase. You see, my rule, - which was a GOOD rule - just aroused his rebellious passions that were already there in his flesh. Just like Paul explains. Now I'm not going to tell you that I chastised him because I didn't. That's not the point of the story. And....I'm not going to tell you that I, MYSELF, didn't touch it either. Because I did. That's not the point of the story, either. My point? Our sin belongs to us and us alone. Not the devil. Not anyone else. Let us repent and come back to God.
  11. We will just have to disagree.
  12. You say Paul didn't know his writings were scripture....meaning holy words..... .....but Peter knew. 2 Peter 3:15-16 = "And regard the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as also our dear brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him, speaking of these things in all his letters. Some things in these letters are hard to understand, things the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they also do to the rest of the scriptures."
  13. Excellent question - for you and for the rest of us, too. Here's something that is not original with me. I've copied it, tweaked it, and reduced it to a small post. 1. Your relationship cannot go higher or deeper than your obedience to the Holy Spirit. The Bible says in Ephesians 4:30 that we are not to "grieve the Holy Spirit of God as he is our seal for the day of redemption". That command comes smack in the middle of several commands from Paul as to how to live - "don't have unwholesome talk come out of your mouth, only what is helpful so it may benefit others. Get rid of rage, bitterness, anger, brawling, slander, and malice. Be kind, compassionate, and forgive each other as Christ forgave us." Since we are to have a "relationship" with the Holy Spirit, it may be that you [AND WE] have to: [1] repent of sin [2] apologize to the Holy Spirit for the grief we cause him. [3] start living for others [4] run to him when you have made a mistake [5] being obedience to what he says in scripture This does not mean though we have to listen to everything that comes to our head! The Holy Spirit uses our spirit to communicate to us, but His voice will never contradict His word - the Bible. The world says to follow your gut; the Bible says to follow your God.
  14. Disagree. Perhaps it was something you ate before you went to bed.
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