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  1. This is not a heresy, dear fellow believer. As I said in the other thread - I have no problem with Isaiah 7 translating the Hebrew word for young woman as "young woman" or as "virgin". There's no conservative or liberal slant either way. There was only one Virgin Birth and that was the birth of Jesus Christ as defined by the Angel Gabriel to Mary, herself, and her understanding that it would be a virgin birth. But Isaiah 7 is a dual prophecy. [1] In it's literal context, God is giving a sign to one of the kings of Israel that a particular young woman will have a child and before that child is very old a particular enemy will be defeated. That immediate prophecy CANNOT be about a literal virgin birth, because - as I said and as you all know - there was only one virgin birth. [2] In it's secondary context, it IS speaking of the birth of Christ because this prophecy is referred to in the New Testament about being about Christ, also. Just another dual prophecy from the Bible with an immediate meaning and a long-term meaning.
  2. First, let me tell you that I like the King James - alot. I was saved when a King James Bible was being preached from and I still have one by my bedside to read at night. But it is not my primary "go to" Bible during the day or for study. Why? That doesn't really matter. Now let me address what you've said here. If, as you say in the above quote, that God would "inspire" the King James translators to use the best manuscripts, then the King James cannot be "inspired" - which it isn't. Only the originals are inspired. The message contained in the King James and others is inspired as the Bible itself says, but the individual English, Spanish, German, Chinese, etc. words are not. To be "inspired" - as the Bible teaches inspiration of the Bible - is to start with a blank page - nothing on it at all. No previous copies, manuscripts, commentaries, translations, man-made opinion, or anything else. A blank page. And then the Holy Spirit of God pressed upon the writers of the original autographs what to say. Word for word. In Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. Not English. Anything other than those first three languages are translations only. Translations are not inspired. God leads and guides competent translators and praise God for them! The Word is inspired - it's perfect and holy, but not the mere words of countless languages. If the King James is inspired by God - the nothing before it was and nothing after it was. In fact, if anyone says that any translation is inspired, then there are two or more different Bibles - and that's chaos. The original autographs and whatever translation in whatever language they are defending. There is only one inspired Word of God and even my beloved King James on my nightstand is not it. It's message it, but not the Old English words.
  3. I have no problem with Isaiah 7 translating the Hebrew word for young woman as "young woman" or as "virgin". There's no conservative or liberal slant either way. There was only one Virgin Birth and that was the birth of Jesus Christ as defined by the Angel Gabriel to Mary, herself, and her understanding that it would be a virgin birth. But Isaiah 7 is a dual prophecy. [1] In it's literal context, God is giving a sign to one of the kings of Israel that a particular young woman will have a child and before that child is very old a particular enemy will be defeated. That immediate prophecy CANNOT be about a literal virgin birth, because - as I said and as you all know - there was only one virgin birth. [2] In it's secondary context, it IS speaking of the birth of Christ because this prophecy is referred to in the New Testament about being about Christ, also. Just another dual prophecy from the Bible with an immediate meaning and a long-term meaning.
  4. I've never heard of it until now. Here's a link I found outlining their tenets. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/atheism/types/christianatheism.shtml They call it Christian Atheism. Quite the oxymoronic treatise - with an emphasis on the last seven letters of that particular figure of speech.
  5. ?? There is only one ministry ..... only one foundation - Jesus Christ. [1] Romans 15:17-21 is Paul speaking about his ministry to the Gentiles - people who have NEVER heard any message - and how he thanks God for it. Your verse you've cited says this, "But I have always tried to preach where people have never heard about Christ. I am like a builder who doesn’t build on anyone else’s foundation." He isn't comparing his message to the message of "the 12" as you call them. [2] And in 1 Corinthians 3:10, Paul is NOT going to "great lengths to separate his ministry with the ministries of those who came before him. He does not speak here at ALL of anyone else's ministry. He says, "According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ." He is saying that there is only ONE foundation - that that is Jesus Christ. He tells the church at Corinth that he has laid this foundation - he started that church - that that others will come after him to build upon that - and for them to be very careful whom they allow to lead and build that church in the future.
  6. Your friend's statement is too generic and implies that God condoned the practice. It's like reading the story of the Levite who allowed his concubine to be raped and then chopped her body up and then telling people - "Well, that's what they did in Bible days" - as if God was approving of that. He wasn't. The context of that story is that "everyone was doing what was right in their own eyes." That period of time with no leader, no king, no judge, no Moses, no Joshua - was literally crazy! Yes, the nation of Assyria did this to the nation of Egypt to humiliate them when they captured them - according to Isaiah. And that's the least of what they did. They also, according to history, would skin their prisoners alive. They were a violent people. This humiliation is just like during WW2, the Nazi's used humiliation by nakedness of their prisoners in concentration camps before they killed them. And it's just like TODAY when some nations such as the Democratic Republic of Congo trains their soldiers to rape. Yes, the Bible records the Assyrian nation of using nakedness to shame their enemies. They were a cruel people and a pagan people, who even though were given a chance to repent of their sins when God used Jonah to preach to them, eventually, just a few centuries after that went back to their old barbaric ways and God eventually destroyed them. But God didn't approve of their cruelty. He eventually destroyed them for it. Nor did he command that his own people - the Hebrews - follow this practice towards their enemies. There are LOT of terrible things recorded in the Bible. But just because they are IN the Bible doesn't mean that they are good things or that God ordained them to be so. And lots of things - much, much worse - are recorded in history. Human nature is cruel and without God - that cruelty can spread like a cancer.
  7. What would I do if I could make things happen by just thinking about them? I shudder to think about it - no pun intended. God says that our "thoughts are not his thoughts". Our thoughts are, at best, random and fickle. At BEST.
  8. Plain and simple - no. If animals had an immortal soul, then I would have to take my cat , Boo-Boo to church and evangelize her and her brother, Baby Buddy THEN, after they showed signs of understanding a sovereign God and their own sin nature, they would need to be baptized..... .....
  9. I can't prove it, but I do not believe that the devil can read our thoughts. The following is also just my opinion. I believe that all sins in all the world can fit under the "BIG THREE" that John talks about: lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh, and the pride of life. Those three are the exact three that the devil tempted Eve with and also Jesus. And in my opinion, those are the three that caused the devil's demise. In other words, his arsenal is limited - even though tentacles of variance appear in those three. And with human nature being same across the eons and with King Solomon showing that there is nothing new under the sun, the devil cannot read our minds, but he knows how we think.
  10. I love it when I find dots in the Bible that I’ve never connected before. This happened to me this past week when getting ready for my community Bible study. We are in Joshua and it was so wonderful reading about God telling Joshua that the victory over the city of Ai was already won and the he [God] was going to turn their enemies over to them. And boy, does Joshua ever get up and STRAIGHTWAY do what God says without fear! He doesn’t dawdle or ask questions. He takes 30,000 of his “mighty men” and they defeat Ai with not so much as one problem - quite unlike the previous and fleshly attempt in trying to defeat them but there was sin in the camp and they were soundly trounced! Afterwards, Joshua builds an altar to the LORD and the people go over the entire Law once again. It was a wonderful passage to read and see how God's sovereignty and man's obedience brings such glory to God. Bear with me - I DO have a point to make. We have enemies today, but it isn’t other people. We are commanded to love and evangelize and bring the lost to Christ. Our enemies are those “powers and principalities” that Paul speaks of in Ephesians and Paul in chapter 6 – gives us the weaponry with which to fight – the armor of God. Ephesians 6:12 says, “For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. But here is something I found while studying for this lesson. I like to connect Old Testament passages to New Testament teachings and to Christians today and there are plenty of commentaries out there to help with that. David Guzik is a commentator that I like to read – I don’t ALWAYS agree with him, but he is pretty reliable. Here is a point that he made. “Just as God told Joshua that the victory was already won and that he was giving it to them – as long as they were in obedience, we also need to know that the victory is already won in that spiritual arena by Jesus Christ, himself. Colossians 2:15 says, ‘Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it [the cross]. ‘ And Romans 8:37 says, ‘….we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.’” Wow, that connection really has been teaching me and moving me. The lesson, in my mind, is EXACTLY the same as Joshua’s lesson. Christ has already “disarmed” the principalities and powers. Just as God already “disarmed” the inhabitants of Ai by putting them into confusion and causing them to make a terribly lethal plan of attack. And just as Joshua and his people still had to fight – we still have to fight. Perhaps you and I need to assess our fighting skills. Are we still trying to fight with sin in the camp? With a lack of faith? With a lack of obedience? Have we given up the fight? Do we even know when we last “put on” the armor of the LORD? Do we understand the enemy? Are we even aware that there is one? Are we trying to fight on our own terms? Do we even have enough of a spiritual spine to get up off of our spiritually lazy rear ends? Do we even care anymore? Jesus Christ has disarmed the enemy - triumphed over them and made a public spectacle of them - so says Colossians 2:15! Ours, as his followers, is to live victoriously and fight FOR the sake of Christ and our own spiritual sake. Maybe, I'm wrong - but I liken the whole thing to a carnivorous animal – sometimes the mother or father carnivore will disable a prey and place it in front of the offspring so that the offspring can “fight” and learn to hunt. If the offspring never learn this, they will be weak adults and probably die in early adulthood. Now that you KNOW that Jesus Christ disabled those powers and principalities on the cross – keep that thought in mind as you re-read this very familiar passage. Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Stand firm therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints….. Oh, and do you know why these things are called the armor of God? Because the Old Testament speaks of these things in various places as God’s armor. Look it up! Paul didn’t just make these weapons up. Jesus Christ has defeated the enemy that Paul speaks of in Ephesians. This defeat is eternal. My prayer is that we, like that young animal who is under the guidance of its parent - will use the weapons that God through the Bible gives us to learn to have victory in the day to day moments of our lives. We are still commanded to fight just as Joshua was. Battles still must be fought - even though we already know that God wins. May we be as bold as Joshua, as humble before God as him, and as alert as him. And may we, like Joshua, when the fight is over, give glory to God and keep our minds in his commandments - every watchful and ever ready for the next fight.
  11. Yes, that's it. And not only his own men that he traveled with, but Paul also had to resist the pressure of his own brothers in Christ - Peter and company - of their being on the verge of becoming Judiazers. Paul met with them privately here, but later publicly confronted Peter because Peter was wrong. I always see Paul as carrying that zealousness from his Pharisee days into his Christian walk. He knew what what commanded by God and what made up the gospel of Jesus Christ and he did not deviate from it - to the point he would even confront Peter.
  12. Jesus Christ. Galatians 1:11-12 - " For I would have you know, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ." That was not a hallucination that Paul [Saul] was having on the road to Damascus. There are quite the number of theophanies in the Old Testament. It shouldn't seem unusual that Paul - entrenched in Old Testament covenant restrictions - should experience a Christophany himself. He met the voice and the bright light of Christ. Up close and personal.
  13. Hey, Zemke - I agree with much of your post, but with this - I seem to see another meaning in Galatians 2. Here's what Paul said there ....." Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and also took Titus with me. And I went up by revelation, and communicated to them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to those who were of reputation, lest by any means I might run, or had run, in vain................................. Now when Peter had come to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed; for before certain men came from James, he would eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing those who were of the circumcision. And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy." I don't see where Paul doubted the "soundness" as you say of his gospel - in fact, I see later in chapter 2 where Paul has to challenge Peter and the other men who are behaving as Judiazers. I see the phrase ..."lest by any means I might run, or had run, in vain"....as Paul saying that he first met met with Peter, James, and John in private because he didn't want to argue openly with them for concern that this might cause the believers of the area to stumble or give him [Paul] a bad reputation and that would have meant the trip was in vain. Paul is not unsure of the gospel he preaches and isn't there to "submit" to his gospel being tested by Peter and company. He is there to teach them that he - in his preaching to the Gentiles - IS preaching the gospel of Christ - NOT for them to test Paul's gospel. Paul's gospel is the gospel of Jesus Christ. He was taught it face to face.
  14. Hello notsolostsoul! I've taught the book of Job several times and I always learn something new each I do. Here's just a few things for you to think about: God cannot bet. You have defined the word correctly and a bet does indeed involve an "uncertain outcome" as you say. There are no uncertainties with God. He is omniscient. Ergo, he cannot place a wager. This was not a pastime or a sport with God. This was very serious. Satan - who is an accuser of the brethren - as the Bible says, accused Job before God of only fearing God and shunning evil because God had given Job the good life. Satan then charge God to prove him wrong by "stretching out His hand" and taking away everything Job had. He said Job would curse God. God is going to prove Satan wrong, but he refuses to bring evil upon Job. He tells Satan that he will have to do it himself and that he cannot kill Job. There is no wager, no bet, no pastime. What is all of this about? It's about something called "sifting". The Apostle Peter was sifted by the devil, too. Jesus told Peter that "the devil has asked permission to sift you as wheat". That's a frightening thing to know the devil wants to torment people so. BUT Jesus also assured Peter that "when you return, you will lead the brothers". Not "IF" you make it, but "WHEN" you make it. Peter was going to be the leader of the early church, persecuted for preaching, and having to look over his shoulder all of the time for Christ's sake. God allowed this so that Peter could come out of that experience a new man - a stronger man - ready to put his money where his sometimes hasty mouth was - AND ready to lead the infant church. Job had a hasty mouth, too. Well,....not nearly as hasty has Peter's. But Job's friends [and with friends like those, who needs enemies?!?] virtually convinced him that he must have committed some great big sin for God to have done these terrible things to him. They led him into a false and legalistic idea of God's relationship with man. Job denied it. And that was true. He HADN'T done something wicked to be punished for. BUT and very unfortunately - Job began to develop an attitude of pride and arrogance as he defended himself to these friends. He got so wound up boasting of his "innocence" that he became obsessed with his own righteousness and finally, he goes to God and finds fault with God. It was a very good thing that a 4th friend came along and exposed Job's own self-righteousness to him. Job does challenge God's righteous and God has to explain it to Job in the best and only way that Job will understand. Job repents and says - "I have uttered what I did not understand, things too wonderful for me, which I did not know . . . I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees You. Therefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes” God did not "mess up the life of a good man" as you say. Satan did. Besides, there is none good - no, not one - as the Bible says. The beginning of Job says that was "blameless and upright". That does not mean he was sinless. If you read the whole book of Job, you will see that Job sinned grievously before God and had to repent of it. In the beginning of Job it says "in THESE things, Job did not sin". What things? He initially did not blame God for his tragedies. Later he did .... and God takes him on a journey that shows God's sovereignty and Job repents. Of COURSE, Job and his wife missed their first children terribly. I'm most assured that a part of their hearts were broken for a very long time. God did not just say "Oh, well....." about anything. This book has been such a source of relief for many people to have a small glimpse of the big picture and we do not understand sometimes. The devil is real, cruel, accusing of us, and plays hard ball. God is sovereign, merciful, and loves us so very much. And even though we do not understand the pain and agony of this world brought about by the devil - we can understand that God allows things sometimes for his own reasons - not to punish us, but to bring us through something and for us to change, grow, and become stronger for it. God is not the bad guy here. The devil is.
  15. You doubt that I understand loss? That I understand the hell of guilt? That I don't think? You presume a lot, don't you. I've obviously upset you. That was not my intent. I merely asked if you could provide the basis of the your assertion that the Last Supper took place on 13 Aviv (Nisan). And I merely gave my understanding of the passage you provided. Sorry. Have a good day.