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  1. Reckless - in my day the word meant irresponsible, dare-devil, running headlong into stupid behavior. I just looked up the word online to see if the meaning has changed. Reckless on google - "doing something without thinking or caring about the consequences of an action." Some of the synonyms are "rash, careless, thoughtless, incautious, heedless, unheeding, inattentive, hasty, overhasty, precipitate, precipitous, impetuous, impulsive, daredevil, devil-may-care, hotheaded; irresponsible, wild, foolhardy, headlong, overadventurous, over-venturesome, audacious, death-or-glory; ill-advised, injudicious, misguided, harebrained, madcap, imprudent, unwise, ill-considered, unconsidered, ill-conceived, unthinking, indiscreet, mindless, negligent; tearaway; harum-scarum, bull-in-a-china-shop..." I don't believe God is any of those things - and I don't believe it just "seems" like God is that way because it doesn't "seem" like God is that way in my eyes. I'll pass on the song, but to each his own. If someone else chooses to listen/sing - I don't have dog in that fight.
  2. I inherited my great-grandfather's branding iron. He had a lot of very, very large oxen [I have a picture of him with them and his workers and large wagons]. He was in the timber business. I wish I'd known him. I took it to Sunday School today as an object lesson. Our lesson in 1 Timothy 4 was about Paul's instructions to Timothy about the content of his preaching and his warnings against false teachers. Paul said this, specifically in verses 1 and 2, "Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons influenced by the hypocrisy of liars, whose consciences are seared as with a hot iron." My initial opinion? There about 4 or 5 sermons in those two verses alone. I concentrated on the "consciences are seared as with a hot iron" part. This explains a lot about false teachers and why they will say anything that suits them. Their hearts are hardened like a thick, back, ugly scar on an animal showing to whom they belong. They don't care what the Biblical truth is. They teach hypocritically and as a liar. Consider just these lies alone from today's progressive Christianity. Whether Jesus was a real person and actually resurrected from the dead is irrelevant to his teachings on how to live and love one another. Hell is just too offensive for many people today. Just stick to taking care of each other and loving one another. I used to think homosexuality was a sin until I made friends with some gay people and came to care for them I don't believe God will send people to hell. Paul was just giving his opinion and they really don't apply to our culture today. The Old Testament is irrelevant for New Testament Christians. We can't know all the ways to God. Jesus was just one of them. Get the picture? How can a person who claims to be a preacher, teacher, or lover of the Bible say theses things with a straight face. Either they are under a delusion or their consciences are seared hard and black. And what about you and me? Can our consciences become seared? Of course. Consider these things Christians become slaves to and justify their bondage. pornography gluttony drunkenness; substance abuse critical spirits; mean-spiritedness; bitterness; hatefulness 50 Shades of Gray; [and more] neglecting church, the bible, prayer, fellowship with other Christians, and spiritual growth I would not wish to know how many Christians' consciences are seared to just these things and there is so much more. We should pray for a softened heart. I don't with to talk about anyone else's issues, but let me tell you this story about me and my seared conscience once. I used to curse like sailor. Not as a teen or in my 20's or even my 30's. But in my early 40's I began to use pretty bad profanity. [I'm 57 today] If it contained the words God or Jesus, I did not use those words, but everything else was fine. I justified myself by saying, "I only say those words around a couple of people at work and they are Christians .....so, where's the harm. It makes them laugh, so ..... I'm good." Yes, I REALLY believed that. One day at work, a group of about 6 of us were given some news we didn't want to hear. After we were summarily chewed out for something we did NOT DO, I had had enough. We walked back to our classrooms [the students were not there that day] and I let those words fly - primarily the F-word. My same old buddies laughed as usually, but a couple of ladies looked as if I had just murdered someone. They were offended and shocked. The Holy Spirit used the look on their faces to stop me in my tracks. He showed me my bondage. I was smitten with conviction. I made the decision right there to never curse again. I apologized to them all the next day and shared that the Holy Spirit brought me under heavy conviction and that they would never hear that from me again. And they didn't. That's been a long time ago. I though of it as I was preparing for this Sunday School lesson and thanked God for the umpteenth time that he delivered me from that. The Holy Spirit taught me yesterday as I was finishing up my preparations that, "Even though that was a long time ago, I want you to know that your two friends who always went along with you and laughed were concerned about that habit and told others about it. And the look on the ladies' faces that were shocked is how your two friends really felt on the inside every time you used profanity back in those days. Don't forget how bondage comes from a seared conscience and tell the people this testimony." So that's what I am doing. We all need to search our hearts for any seared portions where we are dead to feeling any conviction. What we watch, read, eat, drink, say, listen to, neglect, hate, or anything else. Are you and I seared by - as Paul calls it - "teachings from demons"?
  3. I have prayed for dementia patients many times. I am firmly convinced - and yes, to the point that my mind cannot be changed - that until you take your last breath on this earth, God can work in your heart. We cannot commune with those patients, but the Holy Spirit can. I do not know all of God's ways. But I know that his ways are a billion times higher than man's. I would NEVER give up praying for a lost loved one merely because they cannot commune with me or others. Never. Jesus Christ communed and commanded a little girl lying DEAD on a bed. Why can't he commune with a LIVING person whose mind is beyond our reach? Studies have proven that dementia/Alzheimer's patients can focus more on someone when there is multi-sensory activies going on far more than someone who is just talking to them. While talking - try singing a hymn, combing their hair, or letting them hold and play with Playdough. I go with my pastor sometimes to the nursing home to play the piano while he sings and preaches for about 15 minutes. Many of those wheeled in don't know who they are, where they are, and cannot communicate. I tell you the truth - when I play those old hymns, they faces show alertness. Some smile, some try to sing, some cry, and some start talking. One lady, the last time, brought her "baby boy" with her [her very old and dirty stuffed animal]. She was oblivious to everyone except that baby boy. She stroked it's head and spoke words I could not understand. But when the song service began, she became aware that she was in a room with others and she tried to sing, but could not. You and I do NOT know what is in their minds and hearts. God knows and I believe he does not want ANYONE to perish [even though many will]. And a disease like Alzheimer's cannot stop God from saving people. These people may not be aware of anything or anyone, but God can make them aware of him. I say never stop praying until they draw their last breath.
  4. I suppose it just depends on what that nation believes the age of adulthood is. Or at least the age at which a person should start working and contributing to society. The purpose of school, in any setting, is to teach things that are invaluable skills and knowledge and to expose to things that are culturally appreciated and to help the young to see the future and to lead them into a justification of their life in terms of being a member of society.
  5. Hi, JCiL…. Higher math is used by some people in their particular fields and not so much by others. When I used to teach Algebra1/2, I would tell my students that it's true. You may not use this in "real life" per se, but think of it as solving puzzles - sharpening your logic and thinking and the ability to connect the dots. Making the complicated simple. Everything about real life is making the complicated simple. There are knowns and unknowns. Wading through life is about giving the unknown an identity and using it to simplify what's already known. When I took that approach, they made the effort to use algebra to increase their logic and thinking.
  6. I love this story. What's amazing to me is not that the donkey speaks because God can make a cockroach speak if he wants to. But what's amazing to me is that Balaam talks BACK to the donkey and has a conversation with her. Donkey: "What have I done to you to make you beat me?" Balaam: "You have mocked me!! And if I had a sword in my hand, I would KILL you!" [The donkey was the only one who could see the angel with a sword in his hand and was trying to get away from him]. Donkey: "Haven't I always been your very own donkey? Have I ever treated you this way?" Balaam: "No." What a conversation! And who is the one "mocking" Balaam? I think Balaam is making an idiot of his own self.
  7. I see people debate this sometimes. Here, other forums, in churches...... Here's my take for what it is worth - probably only two cents. So the question is, is repentance something that must be done before or after salvation. In other words, does repentance save? Yes and no. [Sorry] No, not if your definition of repentance is a work to accomplish prior to God saving you. For example, if you are convicted of the sin of drug abuse - you do not have to get rid of all the drugs or go to rehab and get clean before God will save you. God will save you just like you are. The getting rid of the drug life and possible rehab is evidence that God has saved you. These works come after salvation as the Holy Spirit leads you in .....well, holiness. Yes, if your definition of repentance is undergoing God's transformation and becoming a new creature in Christ. This would include your conviction of your sin and the desire to turn from sin and to Christ as God is drawing your to him and saving you. After salvation, you will act on those convictions/desires and turn from the sin of your past. Think of it like this. Can eggs, corn meal, buttermilk, baking powder, sugar [if you like sweet cornbread], salt, butter, and a little flour turn itself into cornbread and be served as such? Yes and no. [Again, sorry] No, the ingredients have absolutely no power to mix themselves and turn themselves into anything. Yes, when exposed to heat in the oven, the ingredients are radically transformed by the conduction and convection of the heat. The ingredients are no longer what they were. Once the cornbread is taken from the oven - you can't separate the ingredients anymore. That nasty baking soda is no more and the sour buttermilk cannot be tasted anymore. Repentance as a work does not save. God saves alone and without our help. Repentance as the miracle of God changing our hearts does save. And our actions after salvation will be proof of that change. Sin will be a reproach not only to God, but to us and we will flee from it.
  8. There is a reason that they target celebrities. They want their millions in donations. They get them suckered in by telling them that they are "special" and will rise up the ladder quickly and be given revelations that others are not given. Only a select few will reach the "top".
  9. The deal is that Christians upon being saved become indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Who is he? Well, he is the author of the Bible. 2 Peter 1:21 - " For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. And with the Holy Spirit, we would not understand the Bible in its whole sense. 1 Corinthians 2:13 - "And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual. " The reason that lost people or carnal people often find fault with the Bible and use their erroneous thinking to claim God is full of error is because they are NOT indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Sure, they can understand, "Thou shalt not steal", but the bigger and broader picture - they cannot grasp and many times think it's all a bunch of crazy hooey. So it's not a matter of being intellectual enough. Without the Holy Spirit, even the keenest mind won't understand. I cannot agree that once people are born again that they don't have to read the Bible. I can only speak for myself in that I learn so much every time I read and I've been reading for a very, very long time. I know that some have no access to a Bible, some have a limited comprehension and reading the Bible is hard, and some sit under poor preaching/teaching and the truth gets lost. But there are simpler translations, Bible on tape, and plenty of good commentaries to help. I have two female friends who are married to husbands that are functionally illiterate. The wives read the Bible out loud in a husband/wife study or quiet time and then they discuss it together. I believe the Holy Spirit greatly desires that we read the book that he wrote. And he will guide us as we go day by day and year by year into more understanding. I write in my Bible. I write what the Holy Spirit teaches me, or what I learn from a commentator who is competent and tested, or put question marks next to things I don't quite grasp, or put other scripture citations/page numbers that explains more of what I am reading.
  10. OK, both in your title of your post and in your last sentence here...….you DID ask our opinions. Twice. Here's the thing about money and health for some people. It's never, never, never enough. And for Christians like this, God is the cosmic genie. Selfish prayers to God and giving small amounts of money are ways to manipulate God into giving them MORE. Here's the thing about money and health for other people. They are content with what life deals to them. And for Christians like this, God manipulates US. He uses us as he sees fit. We may suffer or not. Be wealthy or not. But we are content. Jesus didn't have a place to lay his head. He was content. The Apostle Paul experienced mostly want and he was content. My father died a year ago and I put that verse of Paul's in my father's obituary. "I have learned in ALL circumstances to be content." In fact, Paul said that he had learned the "secret" of being content. It was Christ who "gives me strength". Philippians 4 We must.....we MUST glorify the God of the universe in whatever state we are in. Sickness or health. Poverty or wealth. And to teach that God wants all Christians to have money untold and never be sick is a lie and that's what it preached in the prosperity "gospel". How many untold Christians have been "let down" and disappointed when they or their loved was not healed and the "big check" didn't come in the mail. Whom do they blame for it? God? Their prayers? The Bible says that we are going to suffer afflictions. I don't welcome it. I didn't welcome cancer. I didn't welcome my father's death. I didn't welcome epilepsy. I didn't welcome my brother's handicaps. I didn't welcome being alone at this point in my life. But I welcome God. I welcome Christ. I welcome the Holy Spirit. I welcome my church. The Bible says there is a REASON for sufferings - 2 Corinthians 1:3-7 - "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. For as we share abundantly in Christ's sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too. If we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation; and if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which you experience when you patiently endure the same sufferings that we suffer. Our hope for you is unshaken, for we know that as you share in our sufferings, you will also share in our comfort. To teach/preach that if you pray hard enough or give some "seed" money or drink some "miracle spring water" or buy that prayer shawl from the TV preacher that God will go *poof* and you will be wealthy and healed is a lie. I don't know what else to say. It is a lie and it is deceiving people and hurting people.
  11. Which one? I use the 1769 if I am reading the King James. The 1611 and the 1769 have quite a few variances that make me draw to the 1769 when reading the King James. And the 1611 is more difficult to read. For example: 1611 - Ezekiel 24:6-8 = "¶ Wherefore thus sayth the Lord God, Woe to the bloodie citie, to the pot whose scumme is therein, and whose scumme is not gone out of it; bring it out piece by piece, let no lot fall vpon it. For her blood is in the middest of her: she set it vpon the toppe of a rocke, she powred it vpon the ground to couer it with dust: That it might cause furie to come vp to take vengeance: I haue set her blood vpon the top of a rocke, that it should not be couered." 1769 - Ezekiel 24:6-8 = "Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Woe to the bloody city, to the pot whose scum is therein, and whose scum is not gone out of it! bring it out piece by piece; let no lot fall upon it. For her blood is in the midst of her; she set it upon the top of a rock; she poured it not upon the ground, to cover it with dust; That it might cause fury to come up to take vengeance; I have set her blood upon the top of a rock, that it should not be covered." Uncovered blood called out for vengeance, so to speak. [Think Cain/Abel]. The "she" here is Jerusalem and there was so much bloodshed that people were not being buried. She [the city] "set" the blood on a rock, not the dust as should have been to be covered up. [This is all metaphorical]. And God would not allow it anyway it says. My opinion is that the 1611 is wrong here and the 1769 is correct. Considering the context. Here's another [This is all I'll cover]. 1611 - 1 Corinthians 12:28 - "And God hath set some in the Church, first Apostles, secondarily Prophets, thirdly Teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helpes in gouernmēts, diuersities of tongues." 1769 - 1 Corinthians 12:28 - "And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues." This is the church Paul is talking about. Not helps IN governments. But helps AND governing within the church. Ergo, again I think the 1769 is correct here and the 1611 is wrong. When I read the King James, I read the 1769 - not because I believe it to be perfect, because I do not. But because it's more easily readable and several -more than just these two that I listed - several variances have been corrected. And I'm not talking about spellings and such, but contextual errors.
  12. Congratulations on the graduation. High school? College? Graduate School? Watch out for the open/closed door philosophy. God does open up circumstances and close them, but we aren't to focus on the "door" so to speak, but him. And..... As I have found twice in my life .....sometimes an open door is not for me. It's for someone else. I've walked through two doors that were wide open and disaster took over because I was not the one meant to walk through it. Sometimes the devil opens the door really wide and his intent is for you and I to fall flat on our faces. AND, believe it or not, sometimes that "door" is locked tight as a drum and YOU are meant to bust it down. A closed door doesn't necessarily mean you aren't to go through it and an open door doesn't necessarily mean that you are. Just think. What if Ruth said, "I think I need to be going back to my mother-in-law's homeland, but she is adamant that I not go and has commanded me not to go. I guess that's a closed door. I'll stay here in Moab." [Hint: King David would never had been born. She was his great-grandmother] And look what happened when the children of Israel under Joshua no less said, "Hurray, we've beaten the nation of Jericho! Look, there's the nation of Ai. We can conquer it easily. This must be an open door!" [Hint: They were soundly trounced!] Whatever lot you find yourself in - whatever initial job you take - do it for the glory of God and ask him to show you ON THAT JOB what you can do to glorify his name.
  13. Just go back and edit your OP by cutting it into small paragraphs. No need to re-invent the wheel. By-the-by, I read the whole thing. Just based on what you've said.... 1. P does not sound like he will be any better of a husband than the one you have. I would flee from him. 2. Marriage counseling doesn't work with just one visit. The two of you married in haste - not timewise but decision-wise. You decided too quickly. Perhaps the marriage counseling should start from scratch. 3. You are miserable in your situation and anything looks better. That goes with spouses, people on diets, addicts trying to stop behaviors, and many things. Concentrate on mending what you have. 4. Concentrate on reading the Bible, praying, and drawing closer to God all by yourself.
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