creativemechanic Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, ReneeIW said: I agree with this. Btw, anyone can get a poster and write black lives matter on it and start marching and the media will report that “black lives matter”’are on the scene and then the divisions start. I have seen this happen with my own eyes. I would suggest there are racists who don’t like blacks, Latinos and the list goes on, but they would never hurt anyone. This is about bad policing and the police not being accountable to anyone. You can be as racist as you want to be, but if you know you’re going to lose your pension, your job and your freedom, you will not act on those racist feelings by physically harming someone.Racism needs to be taken out of the discussion and the sole focus should be on police accountability, or we aren’t going to get anywhere. I can't argue with that. You're like a breath of fresh air in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creativemechanic Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said: What I am opposing is the notion that America is an inherently racist society. The the police in this county are on the whole racist. That is what is being aid here. If someone wants to prevent themselves from being killed by the police, then cooperate with them. More than likely, you would be released. No matter what color you are. I am comparing because you and the others who are protesting are saying that blacks are being targeted by the police because they are racist. That is patently not true. And the facts bear that out. But I guess that the facts really don't matter now, do they? Well. One bad apple spoils the reputation of the bunch. But you can't use the cooperate and be safe excuse seeing the multiple videos of non resisiting, non violent or already detained black men who still got shot or choked to death when they were no threat. It shows something is wrong. And why don't you hear of these incidents in other multi racial 1st world countries UK, Canada, European nations. Blacks live there too don't they? People's lives are more important than reputations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 And society as a whole is more important than one person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, creativemechanic said: because in that context the ones doing the killing aren't the ones supposed to keep order. A certain standard is expected of police officers. So when a high amount of non violent offenders of a certain race are getting killled dur to excessive forcr then something is wrong. This is hilarious though. People in this thread are dancing around the fire all kinda ways talking about police reputations and how other races were illtreated centuries ago. noones showing any concern that theres a current trend of black people getting murdered by police officers using excessive force. Where's Christianity in that? Is that showing for your brother? In 2017, which is the most current data I can get at the moment, here are the stats: Arrests -------------- deaths from police White: 5,626,140 ------ 457 Black: 2,221,697 ------ 223 Here is an interesting article: https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 So much is not known, people swayed. Here's a few points to reflect upon: Who was filming it and why? Recently, Trump was shown ridiculous apparently talking about bleach, disinfectant and light - but 50 minutes of scientific advisors speaking right before him was omitted. I am not white. Yet i put this topic up. Many things are needed for context in many matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Sure, there are racists in America. On all sides. Just look at BLM as opposed to the KKK. They are racist too. But the vast majority of Americans are not racist. This whole thing has turned into socialism verses capitalism. You want to burn it all down and rebuild it in your own image. You are using George as a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 Two were rookies, one just on the force for only 2 days. He was the only one suggesting to let George up, but his request was rejected. Why the other seasoned officer did nothing is beyond me. I'll just have to wait and see what the trial brings out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creativemechanic Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, OneLight said: In 2017, which is the most current data I can get at the moment, here are the stats: Arrests -------------- deaths from police White: 5,626,140 ------ 457 Black: 2,221,697 ------ 223 Here is an interesting article: https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers You are sticking to the fact that more whites get killed by police than blacks but didn't I point out before that there are far less blacks in America than whites? So arrests are gonna be less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, creativemechanic said: You are sticking to the fact that more whites get killed by police than blacks but didn't I point out before that there are far less blacks in America than whites? So arrests are gonna be less. Does that really make a difference? Is it the fault of whom that a higher percentage of blacks commit crimes? If you notice, gang life in the inner cities is behind a lot of the deaths for the youth, and that is where the higher population live. I'm not looking for percentages here, but numbers. More whites are killed by the police each year than blacks. No matter the race, people have to be held accountable for their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, creativemechanic said: There you go.... Out of the abundance of the mouth the heart speaks. Really? I speak facts and you reply with that? Would it make you "feel better" if I lied? Go ahead and show me where I am wrong. Here are the facts for you, if you are interested: https://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/census_2000/cb01cn176.html Edited June 5, 2020 by OneLight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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