Marilyn C Posted July 17, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,207 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted July 17, 2020 THE HIGHER LIFE There is a high life, saith the Lord, a life that is lived above the small things & the selfish things of this terrestrial plane, & it is My will for those who are elect according to the foreknowledge of your God, to live the high life. When you are doing so all your turnings in life will have an upward direction; all your movements in life will have a Godward tendency, & My purpose concerning you will thus be fulfilled. To the chosen was granted the experience that brought them to a high mountain apart. There they knew a turning from the activities of the plain. An experience of severance from all that tied them to that lower strata of activity. They turned at the behest of the Master, they turned towards the heights & in the heights there was a turning, albeit, a turning that was not of their own doing; because there are powers in the heights, saith the Lord, there are powers that are divine, powers that overrule, that govern, that control. So they were caused to turn from that which was estimable, from a revelation of the greatness of your God in the presence of two of old who had been mightily used in bygone days; but they were led to turn that they may see no man save Jesus only; & this is the hallmark of the higher life, My people, that the Christ is filling the whole of your vision, & He is indeed, pre-eminent in all things. I would lead you there. It is because I am desiring to bring you to such a place that I go backward today again to say, “Turn,” for your natural disposition would lead you toward your fellows. Your individual tendency would be to turn towards company, to turn towards your life, & to turn towards activity, & turn towards the fulfilment of ambition, & to turn towards the fulfilling of your own abilities & potentialities, but I, the Lord, say turn, turn, turn, towards Me that in all things that Christ may have the pre-eminence. I do not want you to be bound to Me by such a flimsy thing as the knowledge that I answer prayer, for although that is a great thing in your estimation, yet I would bring you to a place where, though I slay you, yet will you trust Me. I would bring you to a place where although you gather nothing for yourself from the experience, nevertheless, you are prepared that I shall have the pre-eminence & I would cause you to remember that to those who were given a revelation of My glory on the Mount of Transfiguration, that to those there was reserved the manifestation of the Cross, a Cross in the experience of the pre-eminent Christ, & later a Cross in their own experience, physically & spiritually. Very often I am leading you into the heights & you are failing to understand the mystery of My movements within your heart, because you remember times when your prayers were always answered. You can remember days & months & years when it was a joy to come before Me with request because your request was so often granted; but those days for many have gone & you are in an experience where you walk in the dark, & walk alone, & there is not the same amount of answered prayer. But, oh, My people, there is a high life, there is a high life that moves My people in an expression of prayer, that brings to bear upon them answers that are veiled in the will of God: & to the lower line of thought no answer has been given; but those who walk with Me & live alone with Me are able to receive to themselves answers of a higher type & a loftier degree, for I, the Lord, am drawing them into an inner circle of elective activity that My purposes may be fulfilled. Oh, My people, these are vital days in the fulfilment of My will; these are days, saith the Lord, days, days that are alive with the imminence of the Coming Christ. These are days that are pregnant with possibilities of the fulfilment of age-long purposes, saith the Lord. And I would gather to Myself a people who will indeed live the high life, who will live in the present of the Divine, who will live under submission & subjection to the pre-eminent Christ & allow Me to gather them together in a liberty that will allow Me to be active among them in spiritual activity; active in the fulfilment of My will; active in the reaching out of Divine purpose, saith the Lord. There is so much that I have yet to do before the age can be fully brought to a termination. There is a need, (yet I speak in mystery) there is a need, yea, that I shall fill up that which is behind of the sufferings of Christ, & there is because of this need, a reaching out to gather together a body, by the which, in the ministry of elective suffering, I shall be able to fulfil My will in this respect, saith the Lord. There is a need that I shall establish within a body of people an affinity so deep, so magnetic, so alive that at the coming of Christ there shall be a spontaneous upward move, & they that are alive & remain shall be caught up to be forever with the Lord. Have you thought of that which shall bring about such a tremendous upset of the laws of nature & allow men & women to rise above all laws that are natural, & meet their Lord in the air? I tell you, My people, it shall be wrought by a principle of Divine affinity, that is so, so, so very alive, & so very powerful that nothing in heaven nor in hell, nor in earth, will be able to keep My people on the earth when Christ shall come to the clouds, saith the Lord. And, oh! there is a need that I shall be able to establish that affinity in My people – such a love, such a desire that I shall be pre-eminent, such an ambition to follow every leading that I shall give, such a continuous turning, turning, turning in everyday of life & in every aspect of life, & such a rising up into a high life where in fellowship with Myself I can minister to you & implant within you an affinity for such as I have for you. If I draw you will you run after Me? If I draw you apart, will you run after Me? If I draw you into the uttermost seclusion, will you run after Me? If I draw you, on the other hand, into the thick of battle where the danger is, will you run after Me? If I draw you away from everything that you count worthwhile, will you run after Me? If I draw you away from your preparations for your life & career, will you run after Me? Oh, My people, turn, turn, turn your eyes; turn your hearts; turn your feet & follow Me & I will lead you into the heights & I will cause you to live the high life. There will be times when you must descend to the valley. There will be times when My will for you shall take you from the heights, but it is never My will that the heights shall be taken from you. I would lift you to such an altitude in My will that I may fill you with the expansiveness of My presence; that I might fill you with the length, & breadth & height & depth of the knowledge of My love that will keep you high in the spirit so that as you come to the plain & descend to the valley, you can bring to it the freshness & the vigour & the touch of the heights, saith the Lord. It is My will that here on earth there shall be a revelation of the heavenlies. It is My will that there shall be a manifestation of the variegated aspects of life as it is experienced in the heavenlies in Christ Jesus. And you are a people who have been called with such a calling & given such a purpose to fulfil in order that this shall be done. I call you to turn to Me, saith the Lord God of Hosts. (This prophecy was given by J.A. Tate, Prophet, 9.11.47 in the Apostolic Church, Melbourne Australia.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Marsh Posted July 17, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,086 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 500 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/15/1956 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Deadworm said: I will list just 10 first and 2nd century examples. (1) Paul (but only specific "Words of the Lord") (2) John the seer, but only the 7 prophetic oracles known as the letters to the 7 churches, not the Apocalypse as a whole. Apocalyptic and prophecy can overlap, but they are 2 different phenimena. (3) The evangelist Philip's 4 prophet daughters (1st century) (4) In Acts "the prophets and teachers" named in 13:1; later Agabus (5) Unnamed wandering furst century prophets cited in the Didache (6) Peregrinus, a Jerusalem Christian prophet ridiculed by the pagan Lucian of Samosata (7) Late second century bishop prophet Melito of Sardis (8) Late 2nd century female prophets, Priscilla, Maximilla, and Quintilla ("the New Prophecy") (9) Montanus (10) Sybilline Orackes II (mid-2ns century) Since the early church of the first 3 centuries generally embraced the prophethood of all believers, there must have been innumberable unnamed othersl Hi DW, is this a true statement? There is very little primary sources. "In so doing, he developed unorthodox teachings about the Holy Spirit: Montanus believed that he himself was the Holy Spirit incarnate. He also led a group of people known for their extreme asceticism and gibbering chants." https://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/montanism/ Primary source wise this is what I found: https://biblehub.com/library/pamphilius/church_history/chapter_xvi_the_circumstances_related_of.htm good summary here: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10521a.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Marsh Posted July 17, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 126 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,086 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 500 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/15/1956 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 interesting, thanks all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Israel Posted July 18, 2020 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 72 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/21/1955 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) (Act 3:18) But what God foretold by the mouth of all the prophets, that his Christ should suffer, he thus fulfilled. (Gal 5:14) For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Rom 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. Rom 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. 2Co 6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.) Mat 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. Edited July 18, 2020 by Son of Israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul James Posted November 9, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 771 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 392 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/27/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1947 Share Posted November 9, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 3:51 AM, Bob Carabbio said: There's always Agabus - Paul, however, cautions that Prophesy (or interpretation of tongues) in the course of a meeting SHOULD BE CONFIRMED before it's taken seriously. When I hear a "Prophetic word", I file it in "PENDING", and wait for confirmation. Over the last 50 years of "Full Gospel Christianity", the VAST MAJORITY of prophesies, simply die in "pending". But now and again there'll be a REAL one. Anybody that commits resources on the basis of an unconfirmed "prophesy" is a fool. Here is Heaven's response to most predictive "this is what God is saying" type prophecies: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul James Posted November 9, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 771 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 392 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/27/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1947 Share Posted November 9, 2020 On 7/17/2020 at 6:17 PM, Marilyn C said: THE HIGHER LIFE There is a high life, saith the Lord, a life that is lived above the small things & the selfish things of this terrestrial plane, & it is My will for those who are elect according to the foreknowledge of your God, to live the high life. When you are doing so all your turnings in life will have an upward direction; all your movements in life will have a Godward tendency, & My purpose concerning you will thus be fulfilled. To the chosen was granted the experience that brought them to a high mountain apart. There they knew a turning from the activities of the plain. An experience of severance from all that tied them to that lower strata of activity. They turned at the behest of the Master, they turned towards the heights & in the heights there was a turning, albeit, a turning that was not of their own doing; because there are powers in the heights, saith the Lord, there are powers that are divine, powers that overrule, that govern, that control. So they were caused to turn from that which was estimable, from a revelation of the greatness of your God in the presence of two of old who had been mightily used in bygone days; but they were led to turn that they may see no man save Jesus only; & this is the hallmark of the higher life, My people, that the Christ is filling the whole of your vision, & He is indeed, pre-eminent in all things. I would lead you there. It is because I am desiring to bring you to such a place that I go backward today again to say, “Turn,” for your natural disposition would lead you toward your fellows. Your individual tendency would be to turn towards company, to turn towards your life, & to turn towards activity, & turn towards the fulfilment of ambition, & to turn towards the fulfilling of your own abilities & potentialities, but I, the Lord, say turn, turn, turn, towards Me that in all things that Christ may have the pre-eminence. I do not want you to be bound to Me by such a flimsy thing as the knowledge that I answer prayer, for although that is a great thing in your estimation, yet I would bring you to a place where, though I slay you, yet will you trust Me. I would bring you to a place where although you gather nothing for yourself from the experience, nevertheless, you are prepared that I shall have the pre-eminence & I would cause you to remember that to those who were given a revelation of My glory on the Mount of Transfiguration, that to those there was reserved the manifestation of the Cross, a Cross in the experience of the pre-eminent Christ, & later a Cross in their own experience, physically & spiritually. Very often I am leading you into the heights & you are failing to understand the mystery of My movements within your heart, because you remember times when your prayers were always answered. You can remember days & months & years when it was a joy to come before Me with request because your request was so often granted; but those days for many have gone & you are in an experience where you walk in the dark, & walk alone, & there is not the same amount of answered prayer. But, oh, My people, there is a high life, there is a high life that moves My people in an expression of prayer, that brings to bear upon them answers that are veiled in the will of God: & to the lower line of thought no answer has been given; but those who walk with Me & live alone with Me are able to receive to themselves answers of a higher type & a loftier degree, for I, the Lord, am drawing them into an inner circle of elective activity that My purposes may be fulfilled. Oh, My people, these are vital days in the fulfilment of My will; these are days, saith the Lord, days, days that are alive with the imminence of the Coming Christ. These are days that are pregnant with possibilities of the fulfilment of age-long purposes, saith the Lord. And I would gather to Myself a people who will indeed live the high life, who will live in the present of the Divine, who will live under submission & subjection to the pre-eminent Christ & allow Me to gather them together in a liberty that will allow Me to be active among them in spiritual activity; active in the fulfilment of My will; active in the reaching out of Divine purpose, saith the Lord. There is so much that I have yet to do before the age can be fully brought to a termination. There is a need, (yet I speak in mystery) there is a need, yea, that I shall fill up that which is behind of the sufferings of Christ, & there is because of this need, a reaching out to gather together a body, by the which, in the ministry of elective suffering, I shall be able to fulfil My will in this respect, saith the Lord. There is a need that I shall establish within a body of people an affinity so deep, so magnetic, so alive that at the coming of Christ there shall be a spontaneous upward move, & they that are alive & remain shall be caught up to be forever with the Lord. Have you thought of that which shall bring about such a tremendous upset of the laws of nature & allow men & women to rise above all laws that are natural, & meet their Lord in the air? I tell you, My people, it shall be wrought by a principle of Divine affinity, that is so, so, so very alive, & so very powerful that nothing in heaven nor in hell, nor in earth, will be able to keep My people on the earth when Christ shall come to the clouds, saith the Lord. And, oh! there is a need that I shall be able to establish that affinity in My people – such a love, such a desire that I shall be pre-eminent, such an ambition to follow every leading that I shall give, such a continuous turning, turning, turning in everyday of life & in every aspect of life, & such a rising up into a high life where in fellowship with Myself I can minister to you & implant within you an affinity for such as I have for you. If I draw you will you run after Me? If I draw you apart, will you run after Me? If I draw you into the uttermost seclusion, will you run after Me? If I draw you, on the other hand, into the thick of battle where the danger is, will you run after Me? If I draw you away from everything that you count worthwhile, will you run after Me? If I draw you away from your preparations for your life & career, will you run after Me? Oh, My people, turn, turn, turn your eyes; turn your hearts; turn your feet & follow Me & I will lead you into the heights & I will cause you to live the high life. There will be times when you must descend to the valley. There will be times when My will for you shall take you from the heights, but it is never My will that the heights shall be taken from you. I would lift you to such an altitude in My will that I may fill you with the expansiveness of My presence; that I might fill you with the length, & breadth & height & depth of the knowledge of My love that will keep you high in the spirit so that as you come to the plain & descend to the valley, you can bring to it the freshness & the vigour & the touch of the heights, saith the Lord. It is My will that here on earth there shall be a revelation of the heavenlies. It is My will that there shall be a manifestation of the variegated aspects of life as it is experienced in the heavenlies in Christ Jesus. And you are a people who have been called with such a calling & given such a purpose to fulfil in order that this shall be done. I call you to turn to Me, saith the Lord God of Hosts. (This prophecy was given by J.A. Tate, Prophet, 9.11.47 in the Apostolic Church, Melbourne Australia.) When God has spoken directly to His prophets, it was recorded as Holy Scripture. Therefore, the person who gave these prophecies is saying God is speaking directly through him. Therefore, he is saying that God is giving him extra Scripture, but there is a problem with that, because Proverbs 30:6: "Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar." Also, the interesting thing is that the content of the prophecies concerning the higher spiritual life is not found in the New Testament. That shows a difficulty with these prophecies, and casts doubt as to whether these prophecies are really from the Lord, or are just theological statements by the person couched in "prophetic" form. If they actually are theological statements by the person, then purporting that God is speaking directly through him is essentially taking the Lord's name in vain, which is a violation of the Commandment. Paul teaches that all New Testament prophecy is to be judged, and this is my judgment of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordMaster Posted November 24, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 286 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 24, 2020 Quote what are the examples of messages of post resurrection messages of prophets? You do not give enough information in your question to be able to give a clear and authoritative answer. Post resurrection messages of what prophets? What messages of post resurrection? Are you asking if there are any Scriptural references to people speaking prophetically after Christ's resurrection? If that is what you are asking, then for starters, the entire book of Revelation. Then we have Agubus in Acts 11:28 and 21:10-11. If this is not what you are asking, then place give some more details. Blessings! .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul James Posted November 25, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 771 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 392 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/27/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1947 Share Posted November 25, 2020 As a matter of interest and information, I automatically reject all unsolicited personal prophecies, because they are most likely to contain a spirit of divination that could attack me in my body and my spirit. I don't even put the ones that might seem relevant on the back burner because of the same reason. I keep myself safe by totally and verbally renouncing them, and I would advice others to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted January 6, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2021 The need for an old Testament style prophet was no longer needed 50 days after the Resurrection, because that is when the Holy Spirit came to all believers. Now we know longer need a man to tell us the will of God, We have God dwelling in us, and speaking to us But sometimes we do need an echo Someone to confirm what God is TRYING to tell us. So there are no Oracles, No Holy men preaching revelations of the Lord There are people preaching the word, speaking for right and against wrong, and helping the believer whether they require a pat on the back or a boot to the butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prycejosh1987 Posted March 1, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,176 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/29/1987 Share Posted March 1, 2022 My prophesy would be the same as Gods that The Holy Spirit will be poured on all flesh, and all will have a chance to have the Holy Spirit, absolutely anyone who asks for Him, sincerely with unwavering faith, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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