missmuffet Posted July 18, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.75 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2020 21 hours ago, Mike Mclees said: I must apologize for I have family also. You are right. God is in charge and we can only pray for loved ones. How ever about your usage of 7 year tribulation is not correct. We as being the church have been in tribulation for 2000 years since the church was born at Pentecost. This is biblically fact according to Jesus and also Paul. 2 Timothy 3:12 John 16:33 Jesus said to the disciples . I have told you these thing that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation . How is it you say 7 years tribulation. Why is it not said anythung about the 3&1/2 years called great tribulation after the abomination of desolation. In Matt 24 Jesus quoted Daniel which we find in Daniel 9: 27 And he ( the antichrist) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (7 years) of peace in the mist of the week when he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. ( brakes his covenant) for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate. This is because he will be of great power and authority on the earth. This abomination of desolation will bring on " the great tribulation" during the last half of the 7 year peace. 3&1/2 years. This is confirmed in Dan 7:25which states the church will be persecuted for 3&1/2 years by the antichrist. So all this says is the tribulation of the church has happening for 200o years and when the antichrist commits the abomination of desolation. the final GREAT TRIBULATION begins in the final 3&1/2 years. Now you need to go to REV 15: 2 where you find 0the overcomers are being glorified for holding to their faith while suffering at the hands of the antichrist even unto the death. You are being duped by pre trib preachers. How do I know this? I was a pre-triber also until challenged to find the bedrock the doctrine stands on. There is none. You will never find two different classes of saints, one's who suffer 7 years and ones who don't. that get off free. This is not biblical Check my scripture out because I am telling you the truth. If you find the non suffering saints in scripture please be sure to let me know. I can tell you now though you will not find anything that supports it. Apparently you are not pre-tribulation. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Israel Posted July 18, 2020 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 72 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/21/1955 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Mat 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. Rom_13:11 And that, knowing the time, that NOW it is high time to awake out of sleep: for NOW is our salvation nearer than when we believed. 2Co_6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, NOW is the accepted time; behold, NOW is the day of salvation.) 1Pe 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. 1Pe 5:11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mclees Posted July 18, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, missmuffet said: Apparently you are not pre-tribulation. Time will tell. I thought it was already obvious. Many who believe in the pre-trib doctrine will be shaken in the day of revelation of reality and truth to find that they are staring into the eye's of the antichrist. Edited July 18, 2020 by Mike Mclees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mclees Posted July 18, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 51 minutes ago, Son of Israel said: Mat 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. Rom_13:11 And that, knowing the time, that NOW it is high time to awake out of sleep: for NOW is our salvation nearer than when we believed. 2Co_6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, NOW is the accepted time; behold, NOW is the day of salvation.) 1Pe 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. 1Pe 5:11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 2 Corinthians 6:2 is a sign taped to my car bumper grace be to you my brother 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Israel Posted July 18, 2020 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 72 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/21/1955 Share Posted July 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mike Mclees said: I thought it was already obvious. Many who believe in the pre-trib doctrine will be shaken in the day of revelation and truth to find that they are staring into the eye's of the antichrist. Before receiving Christ Come, every time I looked into the mirror I WAS staring into the eyes of antichrist. ...until I received Christ Come in my flesh 2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves... Now that I have confessed and received Christ Come in my flesh, here I AM! (1Jn 4:2) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because >>>greater is he that is in you,<<< than he that is in the world. Thank you Jesus for Coming in my flesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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