lokp Posted August 12, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 104 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2020 how does "He is patient with you" depend on the Lord's desire to save everyone? In the passage ....The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. I am puzzled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokp Posted August 13, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 104 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 bud, the 1st and 2nd para is great and makes the point to me that ...we are immature kids in the Lord's scale of things. (your last para confusing a bit.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted August 13, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) His patience is waiting for people to repent like He gave 120 years to the world be4 the flood of Noah. Edited August 13, 2020 by R. Hartono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted August 13, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,251 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,858 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 hours ago, lokp said: how does "He is patient with you" depend on the Lord's desire to save everyone? In the passage ....The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. I am puzzled The Lord doesn't desire that anyone perish. As Peter had been talking to false teachers who mocked him saying, "Where is this Jesus coming? He's not coming." Peter told his followers that God is patient, allowing more time for more people to repent and be saved. The Lord is not slow in keeping His promises, as we understand slowness. It will happen in His time and not ours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted August 13, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted August 13, 2020 15 hours ago, lokp said: how does "He is patient with you" depend on the Lord's desire to save everyone? In the passage ....The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. I am puzzled The Lord doesn't discipline us unless he needs to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokp Posted August 13, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 104 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 17 hours ago, Sower said: The Lord doesn't desire that anyone perish. As Peter had been talking to false teachers who mocked him saying, "Where is this Jesus coming? He's not coming." Peter told his followers that God is patient, allowing more time for more people to repent and be saved. The Lord is not slow in keeping His promises, as we understand slowness. It will happen in His time and not ours. Hey bud, u missunderstand my concern.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted August 13, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,251 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,858 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, lokp said: 19 hours ago, Sower said: The Lord doesn't desire that anyone perish. As Peter had been talking to false teachers who mocked him saying, "Where is this Jesus coming? He's not coming." Peter told his followers that God is patient, allowing more time for more people to repent and be saved. The Lord is not slow in keeping His promises, as we understand slowness. It will happen in His time and not ours. Hey bud, u misunderstand my concern.... If you call everybody bud, we do not know who you are referring to. I am known as sower.... On 8/12/2020 at 5:02 PM, lokp said: how does "He is patient with you" depend on the Lord's desire to save everyone? I'm not sure what your concern is, lokp. I simply explained what I believed you scripture meant, 2 Peter 3:9 Peter explained to his followers God will grant time for people to gain salvation mercy. The false teachers were claiming Jesus sure is slow, if ever, to return. You will have to help me understand what your concern is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokp Posted August 14, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 104 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 sower, I was a bit cheeky true your words are right for this passage but can I illustrate my concern... scenario 1 - after many years a lone man entered a crowd of 500 and suddenly the 500 was not gonna perish in the tsanami scenario 2 - after many years the lone man chose not to enter the crowd of 500 and suddenly the 500 was gonna perish in the tsanami is this why the lone man gets the patience of God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted August 14, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,251 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,858 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, lokp said: sower, I was a bit cheeky true your words are right for this passage but can I illustrate my concern... scenario 1 - after many years a lone man entered a crowd of 500 and suddenly the 500 was not gonna perish in the tsanami scenario 2 - after many years the lone man chose not to enter the crowd of 500 and suddenly the 500 was gonna perish in the tsanami is this why the lone man gets the patience of God? scenario 1 - after many years a lone man entered a crowd of 500 and suddenly the 500 was not gonna perish in the tsanami I assume the entrance of the lone man saved the 500. scenario 2 - after many years the lone man chose not to enter the crowd of 500 and suddenly the 500 was gonna perish in the tsanami The 500 perish for lack of the lone man saving them is this why the lone man gets the patience of God? I assumed the lone man was God. Saved the 500 in 1st scenario, not the second. We're not on the same channel, lokp... God was patient with me, thirty five years of rebellion, and I finally received light, and I was saved. I could have been called to eternity sooner, and would have suffered eternally. I am thankful for Gods patients, and faithfulness, and am glad there ain't no tsunami gonna get me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokp Posted August 14, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 104 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 sower, i have found that after 37 yrs of rebellion, it is best sometimes to move on. So thanks sower for your help, and I'll close topic (by the way-lone man not God but a sinner) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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