Why View God as Separate?

[Guest happywisdom]

I am having a hard time relating to anyone who does not place full trust in God and over and over I read comments that ignore this aspect completely. The same logic with Jesus and those who profess a belief somehow being empowered to criticize others and to an extent that isolates and separates and excludes rather than living in Love of God and all his creatures as Jesus and numerous others in the Bible clearly state. Is it that hard to love God and live a harmonious life that Jesus spoke so clearly on? Obeying the 1st Commandment is absent and the ability to clearly speak from the heart is replaced with remarks that are not in harmony and unity and filled with love for others. Hate to sound critical here folks but why is the focus on God being so flagrantly ignored and abused?

[Keith]

happywisdom,

I'm sure you can appreciate that Worthy Boards has 17,617 registered worldwide members currently. If you read our statement of faith, you will see that Worthy is a ministry that strives to honor God and share the Word with the lost. We don't take this lightly.

With this many members, and growing by the thousands, I think you could understand that there are a wide variety of people that come here. Some do not know God at all. Some know of Him, but don't know Him personally. Some are new Christians and some are seasoned. Then there are those who are agnostic, atheists, and some that just plain like to argue and debate. There are Baptists, Evangelicals, Catholics, Muslims, Seventh Day Adventists and the like. Many are hurting and many are angry and can say hurtful things. Rather than get upset, I, personally, try to remember that 'hurting people, hurt people.'

With this many people, from many diverse backgrounds, it's natural that people are going to be at different stages in their lives and disagree about things. What all of these people have in common, however is that they need the love of the Lord. We, as Christians, are commissioned to show them that love.

You say that you can't relate to people who don't put their full trust in God. Can you imagine how Jesus must have felt? Yet, He did relate to them. All of them. And thank God He did! It was these very people that He was to die for. He wanted all of them for the Father. No one was too sinful or too unlovely.

Those of us who love the Lord and are devoted to Him do what we can to keep people respectful of each other and give proper Biblical interpretaions. We try to be His light in dark places. Still, the fact is, that there are people from many different lifestyles here and for everyone to be in agreement all the time is an impossibility. Rather than be disgusted by it and leave, we stay to carry on the work of the Lord to the best of our abilities, loving those who come to Worthy and through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. You never know whose life will be touched.

In another post, you wrote:

all I see feel touch and smell is all God and everything is God and everyone is God,

What do you mean that everything is God and that everyone is God? This is not Biblical. It sounds like Universalism. There is one God in three persons (the Trinity) of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. People are His creation, they are not God. Do you know Jesus and who He is?

[animebling]

I am having a hard time relating to anyone who does not place full trust in God and over and over I read comments that ignore this aspect completely.

As I have a hard time relating to anyone who does put full or any trust in god. I have tried lately and but have only found that my idea of only giving faith to those who earn it is further backed.

[Guest happywisdom]

For sure I know Jesus and this as a result of my being raised in the Christian religion. Everything Jesus says is Truth. My point is that I feel that one must listen to the words in the Bible and understand how it relates to man and his relationship to God. I learned as a child that Jesus loved me and that I was a child of God and I knew then that what Jesus said was very important for me to understand and incorporate into my values. The internalizing of His words, how does this relate to me and what is He trying to get me to believe, has always in whatever words I have read, been a message of Truth.

I am still in the process of a lengthy recovery from an auto accident and for over one year I have been bedridden. Consequently, and fortunately, and gratefully, this has given me a golden opportunity to surrender completely to the Lord.

I am not God, I am not Jesus, I am not the Holy Spirit, but I am at one with God.

The closest description I can muster up in words is that I have given myself up so completely that I am dead to the world and relaxed in a peaceful state of mind that the Grace of God has literally taken over my entire being. In a material sense, I have gained nothing. In a spiritual sense, I have nothing more to gain.

I feel surrounded by Love and know that Jesus spoke the Truth and it is simply to put all trust in the Lord and the material world will take care of itself.

I had to let go of everything for this overwhelming conversion to so fully take place and I care deeply for everyone and everything. I do not feel the need to change anything and all I know is what I am experiencing firsthand. I know or realize a oneness that is present in the here and now and inside or outside my body it is all the same. I am describing my own personal experience and I have no control or desire to worry about how other people discover their own divine state but I know that my own personal salvation happened by completely letting go and allowing God to take over. I know it couldn't have happened any other way. I also know that every word uttered by Jesus is in complete harmony with how I feel today and I see no conflicts and I know God is in complete control not just with me but with everything and there is no separation. A never ending and infinite amount of objects that manifest and come and go but it is all part of God and it took my total surrender, as Jesus instructed over and over, and where I am now is beyond hope and dispair but if I were to hope for something, it would be that everyone take the words of Jesus into their own life and by doing so, others will notice a difference and will want to do the same for themselves. I can only speak for myself and how my life has changed for the better and if I am to be labeled as something, so be it, but I have found the Truth and it took letting go and I am filled with Love and how others think is how others think but it is not my concern and in my own way I am one less problem for a world filled with problems.

I'll end this by saying that Jesus spoke the Truth and I heeded His words.

[Artemus Prime]

Please go to my replies about this topic, seen in the other two threads you've visited...I've no need to repeat myself... Blessings,

AP

[Artemus Prime]

Exactly how I felt when reading this stuff, Princess. Makes no logical sense...

AP

[Artemus Prime]

you know, words could be a plus...but that's just me...

AP

[Artemus Prime]

Getting there...we'll know shortly

AP

[Artemus Prime]

Still politely waiting for your response, friend...

Since you claim to have a workable knowledge of Scripture, you would at least then concede that my earlier statements do indeed have the support of the Word, e.g. Ephesians Ch. 4 and Matthew Ch. 16...

As others have already posted, what you're stating is not even close to Biblical; it is more of a lightened version of Universalism...

As Dr. Luke has asked, do you truly know the Lord? Or just know of Him...

AP

[Guest happywisdom]

Still politely waiting for your response, friend...

Since you claim to have a workable knowledge of Scripture, you would at least then concede that my earlier statements do indeed have the support of the Word, e.g. Ephesians Ch. 4 and Matthew Ch. 16...

As others have already posted, what you're stating is not even close to Biblical; it is more of a lightened version of Universalism...

As Dr. Luke has asked, do you truly know the Lord? Or just know of Him...

Yep, busy responding to Dr. Luke, apologize for the wait. I live from the heart and that works very well for me, in my work with others as a self-employed CPA, and in my church activities which is Unity. If you have anything to say from this viewpoint, I am all ears and will respond as I feel, again, all heart and I am an open book so critical remarks of any kind are not part of my mindset. I have been raised knowing I was loved by Jesus from birth and have taken a few journeys in life including metaphysical, and may not appear to be a Christian, but I can assure you I am not who you think I am and also that I don't have the ability or inclination to attack others, no matter how they feel or how they think.

I know good deeds don't get you there either but the deeds I have performed for the Episcopal Church have been so exceptional that the minister blessed me, and so please take that into account. I am better at looking at a verse, any verse, in the spirit of how this relates to me and my relationship to God, otherwise wide open and always best wishes and always much love your way. One thing we already have in common, regardless the apparent differences, is that both of us are believers in love with how we believe and think and feel and live, and that is a big positive. I have CPA work to attend to but will try to respond as I am able.