ted Posted August 8, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 276 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 7,474 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1966 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Who cares why they hate us. They are killing us, and that's enough for me right now. I'll do some studies later on in life, but I can say for a fact that I have never killed any of them, prior to 2003/4, so why were they after me? I know, they aren't after me directly, right? But I would have died just the same as 3,000 other people on 9/11. I seriously doubt that even a few of the ones that died that day had ever killed any of them, either. So, for now, who really cares why they hate me. If given the chance, some of them would lop my head off and carry it through the streets. So someone please tell me why I should care why they hate me? Just how much justification should I need to defend myself, anyway? t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgolvach Posted August 9, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 110 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,254 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 Who cares why they hate us. They are killing us, and that's enough for me right now. I'll do some studies later on in life, but I can say for a fact that I have never killed any of them, prior to 2003/4, so why were they after me? I know, they aren't after me directly, right? But I would have died just the same as 3,000 other people on 9/11. I seriously doubt that even a few of the ones that died that day had ever killed any of them, either. So, for now, who really cares why they hate me. If given the chance, some of them would lop my head off and carry it through the streets. So someone please tell me why I should care why they hate me? Just how much justification should I need to defend myself, anyway? I agree completely. In the end. we don't have time to convince the rest of the nieve western world that we need take our security more serious. PC needs to fall by the wayside. Its a truely a matter of survival. If we want to survive we are going to have to take some "extreme" steps. We are dealing with a very "extreme enemy". The world has no blueprint for the type of war we are now starting to see. One of the enemy's most deadly weapons is our PC mind set and lack of resolve to truely protect ourselves. Perhaps we will have that resolve after a mushroom cloud or two rises over a major population center. But by then....well..we'll see. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eadora Posted August 10, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 226 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/24/1945 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Who cares why they hate us. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I care! because only with a grasp of that answer can we hope fo fullfill Christ's desire for our hearts. And: Just how much justification should I need to defend myself, anyway? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Absolutely non at all Absolutely non at all! There is no way any of us could possibly justify ourselves. So why do we try, so hard some times to justify others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted August 10, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Well, if you think no longer bying gasoline from companies that buy oil from corrupt rulers in the Mid-East will make the terrorists not want to kill you, then be my guest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 QUOTE(ted @ Aug 8 2005, 07:08 PM) Who cares why they hate us. I care! because only with a grasp of that answer can we hope fo fullfill Christ's desire for our hearts. And: QUOTE(ted @ Aug 8 2005, 07:08 PM) Just how much justification should I need to defend myself, anyway? Absolutely non at all Absolutely non at all! There is no way any of us could possibly justify ourselves. So why do we try, so hard some times to justify others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamusat Posted August 11, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 102 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/18/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/26/1961 Share Posted August 11, 2005 They hate us because we are christians. It's that simple. People hate what convicts them. It is a religous war with good against evil. People can postulate all they want about what causes terrorism. Poverty, envy etc... etc.. but in the end, the only thing that matters is that now, Christianity is being spread in the middle east where it never was allowed before. That infuriates them, because in their hearts, they know it's the biggest threat they can ever face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgolvach Posted August 11, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 110 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,254 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 If I were in a religion where I am merely a slave, I would ENVY anyone who had a God that called them "son" or "daughter". Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted August 11, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted August 11, 2005 If I were in a religion where I am merely a slave, I would ENVY anyone who had a God that called them "son" or "daughter". Dan <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Amen and Amen dgolvach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eadora Posted August 11, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 226 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/24/1945 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Oh my Friends "Loving your enemy" was given in the context of dealing with people on a personal level. AND The only way to defeat terrorism is to make the price for terrorism higher than the terrorists want to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(shiloh357 @ Aug 10 2005, 08:11 AM) "Loving your enemy" was given in the context of dealing with people on a personal level. AND The only way to defeat terrorism is to make the price for terrorism higher than the terrorists want to pay. AND We need to strike fear in the hearts of every terrorist supporting nation in such a way that they despair of any further conflict, that there is no amount of evil that they can perpetrate that will be worth ferocious, crippling and devastating reprisal launched upon them. And just how do you do you propose to instill fear in an enemy who willingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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