Sower Posted March 25, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,251 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,858 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted March 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, BelieveonJesus said: You cannot repent of your sins because we all continue to sin. You can repent which you do when you believe on Jesus and have faith in Lord Jesus to save you. You repented (changed your thinking) BelieveonJesus, before you were saved, as every saved believer did. If you did not change your belief in the devil's lies, you would still be lost. Repenting (a changed thinking) in the mind must come before repenting in your actions. When you were saved, God's light entered your thinking, and this light removed false beliefs. This light is the word, truth. Jesus is the word. Jesus said to now, as a child of God, repent of your sins. You BelieveonJesus can not do this in the old man, the flesh. But as a believer, you are a new creature. All things have passed away, all things become new. You are dead to sin, alive to Christ. Christ lives in you, and you can do all things in Christ, like reckoning yourself dead to sin, and alive to Christ! "I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing" Jn 15 Baptism is a teaching of God professing your faith/belief in Jesus as savior. A command. Not a work. It is a privilege. Showing the world your not ashamed of the name of Jesus. “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ Acts 2:38 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. 2 Peter 3:9 From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 4:17 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent Acts 17:30 Bear fruit in keeping with repentance. Matthew 3:8 etc etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley L Posted March 25, 2021 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 304 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/05/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 3:21 AM, BelieveonJesus said: Believe on Jesus Christ(who is God). Have faith and trust in Lord Jesus to save you. You should believe the gospel that Jesus died for our sins and spilled blood washes away our sins, was buried and rose again three days later. I included the blood of Jesus because it is important. You may want to review what faith and trust mean. Amen! I am preparing a bible study about the parable of the ten virgins. In which I will also point out salvation. During my preparation, an important question came to my mind to ask christians brothers and sisters. "Were you taught in church to believe you are saved OR were you taught in church to believe in Jesus Christ alone?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley L Posted March 25, 2021 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 304 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/05/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 25, 2021 36 minutes ago, SONshine said: “Lord, save me.” Matthew 14:30 God heard Peter’s prayer and he was saved from drowning—the same way that a sinner is saved when he calls out to Jesus. Indeed. But not of which that comes out of the mouth, but which that is inside the heart. God hears prayers because not of the words, but of the heart. A repentant heart. Jeremiah 17:10 10 “I the Lord search the heart and examine the mind, Jeremiah 29:13 13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted March 25, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,079 Content Per Day: 9.76 Reputation: 13,555 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted March 25, 2021 Repentance is to turn away from sin. To acknowledge it. The main reason I bring this up is because many churches and evangelists are like salvation factories attempting to pump out born again believers by rounding up everyone into the proverbial cattle chutes. Thy have nearly turned the process into a few simple steps without looking at any of the deeper implications. Almost with the efficiency of an automated factory. Can't tell you how many times the condensed answer of " ask Jesus into your heart" was mentioned. Little 5 and 6 years olds do it. Someone asks them if they are saved and they say I "asked Jesus into my heart". What does that really mean? At face value it's also an act that someone might not really understand, like rubbing a necklace emblem of Mary three times for good luck. Who is Jesus? What did He do? Why did He do it? How does that affect me? Why did I ask Jesus into my heart? I think it's something many people really don't understand totally, especially the idea of sin, how utterly bad it really is, why sorrow for sin and acknowledgment of it is so very important, what Jesus endured for us and how this change that takes place...... this salvation makes us a different person. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted March 25, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,467 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,378 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 25, 2021 17 hours ago, johnthebaptist said: You didn't say anthing about repenting of our sin. No argument or debate about the need and requirement of repentance, but... How did the criminal next to Jesus have the opportunity to show and demonstrate repentance, change his ways and behaviors? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted March 25, 2021 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted March 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said: No argument or debate about the need and requirement of repentance, but... How did the criminal next to Jesus have the opportunity to show and demonstrate repentance, change his ways and behaviors? A lot can happen even in a millisecond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted March 25, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,251 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,858 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, Starise said: Repentance is to turn away from sin. To acknowledge it. The main reason I bring this up is because many churches and evangelists are like salvation factories attempting to pump out born again believers by rounding up everyone into the proverbial cattle chutes. Thy have nearly turned the process into a few simple steps without looking at any of the deeper implications. Almost with the efficiency of an automated factory. Can't tell you how many times the condensed answer of " ask Jesus into your heart" was mentioned. Little 5 and 6 years olds do it. Someone asks them if they are saved and they say I "asked Jesus into my heart". What does that really mean? At face value it's also an act that someone might not really understand, like rubbing a necklace emblem of Mary three times for good luck. Who is Jesus? What did He do? Why did He do it? How does that affect me? Why did I ask Jesus into my heart? I think it's something many people really don't understand totally, especially the idea of sin, how utterly bad it really is, why sorrow for sin and acknowledgment of it is so very important, what Jesus endured for us and how this change that takes place...... this salvation makes us a different person. I agree. They have to understand that they are lost, to grasp the need for salvation. When witnessing, I have never pushed for a decision for Christ. Too many pew sitters already. I sow the seed, on any soil. Pray/intercede for them. And give it to God. And God says 'My sheep hear my voice' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted March 25, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,467 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,378 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 25, 2021 34 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: A lot can happen even in a millisecond. Yes. But repentance is a voluntary inward and outward action, that visibly demonstrates the change. That demonstration and change takes 'time' to manifest. The criminal had no 'time' or opportunity to show and demonstrate change. He simply had faith, believed, and asked the Lord Jesus not to forget him. Just my thoughts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted March 25, 2021 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted March 25, 2021 48 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said: Yes. But repentance is a voluntary inward and outward action, that visibly demonstrates the change. That demonstration and change takes 'time' to manifest. The criminal had no 'time' or opportunity to show and demonstrate change. He simply had faith, believed, and asked the Lord Jesus not to forget him. Just my thoughts... At the moment you repent, the Lord knows you have repented. I believe that is all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve morrow Posted March 26, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,045 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 367 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted March 26, 2021 SO MANY LOVE TO CLAIM A SHORTCUT AND OF THOSE HOW MANY ARE SAVED HEBREWS 5:9 and being made perfect HE became the author of eternal salvation unto ---ALL THEM THAT OBEY HIM--- JOHN 5:34 but I receive not testimony --FROM MAN-- but these things --I SAY THAT YOU MIGHT BE SAVED-- 2 TIMOTHY 3:15 AND THAT FROM A CHILD THOU HAST KNOWN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES WHICH ARE ABLE TO MAKE THEE WISE UNTO SALVATION THROUGH FAITH WHICH IS IN CHRIST JESUS PSALM 28:8 THE LORD IS THEIR STRENGTH AND HE IS THE SAVING STRENGTH OF HIS ANOINTED PROVERBS 24:5 A WISE MAN IS STRONG YEA A MAN OF KNOWLEDGE INCREASETH STRENGTH ROMANS 10:2 FOR I BEAR THEM RECORD THAT THEY HAVE A ZEAL OF GOD BUT NOT ACCORDING TO KNOWLEDGE ROMANS 1:18 for the wrath of GOD is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness who hold the truth in unrighteousness 2 THESSALONIANS 2:10 and with all deceiveableness of unrighteousness in ---THEM THAT PERISH--- because they received not the love of the truth --- THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED --- ISAIAH 30:15 for thus saith THE LORD GOD THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL in returning and rest shall you be --SAVED-- IN QUIETNESS AND IN CONFIDENCE SHALL BE YOUR --STRENGTH-----AND YOU WOULD NOT----- ECCLESIASTES 5:3 FOR A DREAM COMETH THROUGH THE MULTITUDE OF BUSINESS AND A FOOLS VOICE IS KNOWN BY MULTUDE OF WORDS ACTS 4:12 NEITHER IS THERE SALVATION IN ANY OTHER FOR THERE IS NONE OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN GIVEN AMONG MEN WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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