70 AD

[Charlie744]

A few days ago I read a comment from DeighAnn concerning the 70 AD destruction of everything by Titus and the Romans. Although I was aware of the time between the Cross and the destruction, I really never put much thought or effort (yet) into just why this time (70 AD) was selected by God.

If you believe as I do there is absolutely nothing in the Scriptures that is random, unnecessary, just a filler between two more important events, etc., God has a very specific and perfect reason (s) for selecting 70 AD.

Well, since I am still studying Daniel I thought I should spend some time and thought into this...but since I have found within this forum there is indeed a very strong group of folks that are interested in Daniel and possibility uncovering new interpretations, I thought it would be so enjoyable to think about this with everyone!

So, depending on each of us develops an approach to studying this specific issue, we should get many interesting responses and where the one that has legs will indeed surface and carry on.....and when it is brought forward, WE WILL ALL KNOW IT.

If you are interested, I look forward to your thoughts and responses!  Charlie

 

[Justin Adams]

Quick summary of Jews vs Romans War: There is very much more if you read all of Josephus.

1.              Between Passover AD 65 and Passover AD 66 Josephus records 7 miraculous signs as predicted by Jesus Christ.

2.              Around January AD 66, unrest in Caesarea between the Greeks and Jews is caused when Greeks erect new buildings that hindered access to the Jewish synagogue. (Josephus Wars 2.285-286)

3.              March AD 66: Book of Revelation arrives in Jerusalem: Seven autograph copies of the Book of Revelation arrive in Jerusalem via the seven messengers of the 7 Churches of Asia (Rev 2-3). This is likely when the first wave of Christians fled the city. They would follow the 7 messengers back to the 7 churches and find support and refuge. Like the Babylonian Captivity, there were three waves of the righteous who left the city. This first wave in early spring of AD 66 corresponds to the first message of Jeremiah to “leave it all behind” in 605 BC where Daniel, Meshach Shadrach and Abednego all voluntarily surrendered to Nebuchadnezzar upon his arrival in in the Summer of 605 BC. (Jer 21:8-10) This first wave is the spiritual “cream of the crop” and they would be of great spiritual to the weaker churches in Revelation in both encouragement and knowledge of the Old Testament. These Christians were able to take some of their wealth, even selling lands/houses/possessions and would be in Asia before any of the war reached Jerusalem.

4.              A few days before Passover AD 66, 3 million Jews gathered in Jerusalem to complain to Cestius Gallus about the evils of Judean governor Florus. (Wars 2.280-283). The war started in the mind of Roman appointed governor of Judea, Florus on Passover. When the Jews complained bitterly about his treachery to Syrian governor Cestius, Florus laughed at the Jews.

5.              Passover, Monday 28th April AD 66: The 7 miraculous signs recorded by Josephus end when the miraculous comet and star disappear after being visible since Passover AD 65.

6.              On Friday, 16th May AD 66 (Sixteen days after Passover AD 66) Florus visits Caesarea and accepts a bribe of 8 talents from the Jews to stop construction of buildings that hinder access to their synagogue. Florus leaves for Sebaste without doing as promised. (Wars 2.287-288)

7.              One day later, on Sabbath, 17th May AD 66 (17 days after Passover) The local Greeks desecrating the synagogue with an upside down clay jar of dead birds that had been sacrificed to idols at the entrance of the synagogue. Florus begins provoking the Jews into war as a pretext of stealing their money in the Jerusalem temple.

8.              17th May AD 66: Florus travels immediately down to Caesarea and deliberately pollutes a Jewish synagogue on the Sabbath.

9.              Monday 25th Aug 66 (14th Av): The war spreads Jerusalem. The liberate Jerusalem begins on the festival of Xylophory on Monday 25th Aug 66 [14th Av] It is nothing short of incredible that the beginning of the destruction of Jerusalem by fire was by Jews who used the wood donated during the festival of Xylophory for the Altar of Burnt offerings in the temple. Talk about creating their own “literal Holocaust” with the wood used for the Jewish temple Altar!

10.          28th August AD 66: Manahem arrives at Jerusalem and surrounds the city fulfilling Lk 21:20 but is killed on 15th September AD 66. (Wars 2.433-440) This was likely when the second wave the Christians fled the city. After entering the city as a leader, he was finally defeated and fled the city on 15th September AD 66. While the Jews would have felt safe, the Christians knew disaster was near for the city. This corresponds to the second attach of Nebuchadnezzar on Jerusalem on 9th December 598 BC when Jehoiachin/Jeconiah/Coniah and Ezekiel obey the order of Jeremiah and surrender voluntarily (2 Kings 24:10-16). They are deported along with a group of 3023 Jews who surrendered by Nebuzaradan: Jer 52:29. These would likely have been caught up in the weedy and rocky soils of life (parable of the sower) but they finally obeyed the second command to leave. They would likely only get out of the city with the easiest of possessions to convert to cash.

11.          28th August AD 66: Christians begin to flee the city on 28th August AD 66, which is the day Manahem first surrounds Jerusalem.

12.          15th September AD 66: Jerusalem is liberated 15th September AD 66 when Manahem is killed: Wars 2.433-440

13.          25th September AD 66: Jerusalem surrounded a second time by Jewish armies: Herod Agrippa II sends Syrian Governor Cestius and his Roman army to set up camp 6 miles outside Jerusalem to attempt to restore peace but the Jews attack and repel the Roman army. (Wars 2.516) The city is surrounded a second time by Jewish armies around 25th September AD 66 to defend against all the approaching Roman armies. All city gates are guarded on the outside. (Josephus Wars 2.522)

14.          October AD 66: Agrippa sent two ambassadors named Phebus and Borceus to apologize to the Jews of the city in an effort to end the war. The Jews killed Phebus and wounded Borceus who escaped the city. (Wars 2.521)

15.          Nov 3, AD 66 While the Jews in the city were in a state of disorganization, Syrian Governor Cestius Gallus sets up his army on mount Scopus, 1 km from the temple mount but did not attack for three full days to see if the deliberate pause in the fighting might cause the Jews to calm down and stop the war. (Wars 2.528)

16.          About Nov 10, AD 66: Roman Syrian Governor Cestius Gallus, withdraws his armies secretly to Antipatris and stops attacking Jerusalem: The Romans begin attacking the city walls but Cestius devised a trick to secretly retreat his army to Antipatris. (Wars 2.551). The Jews took possession of many mechanical war machines like the Ballista (see below for photo), that the Roman’s left behind. (Wars 2.554). This was likely when the third wave of Christians fled the city. Persecutions from the Jews would have begun and they likely left with only what they could take in a panic after the Roman armies left. While the Jews were bringing in Ballista and Scorpion machines of war into the city, the Christians were fleeing the city. This corresponds to the third deportation of 587 BC when 832 Jews were deported to Babylon upon capture. (Jer 52:29)

17.          December AD 66 Nero sends Vespasian to destroy Jerusalem: “So Nero esteemed these circumstances as favorable omens, and saw that Vespasian’s age gave him sure experience, and great skill, and that he had his sons as hostages for his fidelity to himself, and that the flourishing age they were in would make them fit instruments under their father’s prudence. Perhaps also there was some interposition of Providence, which was paving the way for Vespasian’s being himself emperor afterwards. (7) Upon the whole he sent this man to take upon him the command of the armies that were in Syria; but this not without great encomiums and flattering compellations, such as necessity required, and such as might mollify him into complaisance. (8) So Vespasian sent his son Titus from Achaia, where he had been with Nero, to Alexandria, to bring back with him from thence the fifth and tenth legions, while he himself, when he had passed over the Hellespont, came by land into Syria, where he gathered together, the Roman forces, with a considerable number of auxiliaries from the kings in that neighborhood.” (Josephus Wars 3.6-8)

18.          Jan AD 66 – Aug AD 70: Some Christians were able to bribe or sneak their way out of Jerusalem and immediately surrender to either Vespasian or Titus. This is likely the 4th wave of Christians to leave the city. This corresponds to the 4th deportation of 582 Jews who ignored all commands to surrender and fled from Jerusalem to Egypt only to be captured by Nebuchadnezzar. (Jer 44:30; 52:30; Josephus Antiquities 10:181) These Christians refused to leave the city with the first three waves and were trapped inside after Jan AD67. If they made it out alive they were likely the ones who were sent to Pella by Titus. These lost every material possession for their disobedience to Christ because they were worldly and lukewarm Christians. In hindsight, they regret not leaving when they first read the book of Revelation when in arrived early Spring AD 66.

19.          Titus arrives to destroy Jerusalem: 7th March AD 70

20.          Daily Temple Sacrifices Stop: 14th July AD 70, Sabbath [17 Tammuz/Panemus]: Synchronism with Daniel 8:9-14 & Daniel 11:21-45 Abomination of Desolation= John stops temple sacrifices: Daniel 8:9-14 and Daniel 11:21-45 = Mt 24 = Josephus Wars 6.93-129

21.          6th August AD 70: Temple burned.

_____________________________________________________________________________

NOTE:

Parker and Dubberstein are the current scholastic standard for Jewish to Julian dates conversion today:

1.      In 1971, Parker and Dubberstein published their landmark work in fixing past chronological dates which were consistently in error.

a.        Any book published before AD 1971 will be in error when converting Bible dates and those used by Josephus of about three weeks.

b.      Almost all dates in most published scholastic works have an error of about three weeks.

c.       These major chronological errors are caused by using flawed, outdated and obsolete Jewish to Julian conversion tables.

2.      The Bible Only Revelation Commentary by Steven Rudd (2018 AD) utilizes the Parker and Dubberstein Hebrew to Julian date conversion tables.

a.       Babylonian Chronology: 626 B.C. - A.D. 75, Richard Anthony Parker, Waldo H Dubberstein, 1971 AD

b.      See detailed Chronological tables of Parker and Dubberstein

c.       See: Online Parker and Dubberstein date converter.

d.      Special thanks to Rodger Young who has been an invaluable help in this matter.

3.      All dates in this Revelation Commentary follow Parker and Dubberstein.

Dating Example: Destruction of Jerusalem Temple on 10th Av AD 70

4.      The Temple of Jerusalem was burned on 10th Av AD 70 and the correct Julian date according to Parker and Dubberstein is Monday 6th August AD 70.

5.      However, Wikipedia (Notoriously inaccurate) many online websites (ie. Gary. J. Goldberg’s Josephus Chronology) and published scholastic Bible reference works incorrectly date the 10th Av to 29th August AD 70.

6.      This means that the correct Julian date for 10th Av is 23 days (3 weeks) earlier than incorrectly recorded online and in Bible encyclopedias.

a.       Correct: Monday 6th August AD 70 (Parker and Dubberstein)

b.      Wrong: 29th August AD 70 (23 days later than correct date)

7.      Both Nebuchadnezzar and Titus burned the Jerusalem Temple on the exact same day of the year: 10th Av.

8.      Modern Jewish Rabbis and Jewish Scholars generally reject Josephus as a corrupted fabrication of Christians and date the burning of the temple to Av 9, one day earlier than Josephus. Of course even Josephus noted that the Jews of the first century were “creeped out” that the 10th Av was the exact same day of the year that Nebuchanezzar burned the Solomonic temple in 587 BC.

Edited March 26, 2021 by Justin Adams

[Guest kingdombrat]

I prefer to make things simpler.

 

Ultimately, what happened [AFTER] Yeshua ascended to Heaven until the 70 A.D. destruction?

A Spiritual War between Judaism and the New Gospel of Christ.

But when the 70 A.D. destruction took place, the physical Temple was destroyed, and the Jews were forced to evacuate/scattered all over the world, what stood Defiant and Victorious?

The Gospel of Christ.

 

I simply see the ridding of the physical Temple as a major breakthrough for Gospel of Christ to flourish.

Ultimately, I see God's Design and Purpose to destroy the Temple [which is solely attached to the Jew], so the Reign of the Gentile [which we are currently in] could take over the world like it has for the past 1,900 years.

 

No Temple = no Jew Reign

No Temple = Gentile Reign through the Gospel of Christ

 

It's Beautiful how God made this happen!

[Charlie744]

1 hour ago, Justin Adams said:

Quick summary of Jews vs Romans War: There is very much more if you read all of Josephus.

1.              Between Passover AD 65 and Passover AD 66 Josephus records 7 miraculous signs as predicted by Jesus Christ.

2.              Around January AD 66, unrest in Caesarea between the Greeks and Jews is caused when Greeks erect new buildings that hindered access to the Jewish synagogue. (Josephus Wars 2.285-286)

3.              March AD 66: Book of Revelation arrives in Jerusalem: Seven autograph copies of the Book of Revelation arrive in Jerusalem via the seven messengers of the 7 Churches of Asia (Rev 2-3). This is likely when the first wave of Christians fled the city. They would follow the 7 messengers back to the 7 churches and find support and refuge. Like the Babylonian Captivity, there were three waves of the righteous who left the city. This first wave in early spring of AD 66 corresponds to the first message of Jeremiah to “leave it all behind” in 605 BC where Daniel, Meshach Shadrach and Abednego all voluntarily surrendered to Nebuchadnezzar upon his arrival in in the Summer of 605 BC. (Jer 21:8-10) This first wave is the spiritual “cream of the crop” and they would be of great spiritual to the weaker churches in Revelation in both encouragement and knowledge of the Old Testament. These Christians were able to take some of their wealth, even selling lands/houses/possessions and would be in Asia before any of the war reached Jerusalem.

4.              A few days before Passover AD 66, 3 million Jews gathered in Jerusalem to complain to Cestius Gallus about the evils of Judean governor Florus. (Wars 2.280-283). The war started in the mind of Roman appointed governor of Judea, Florus on Passover. When the Jews complained bitterly about his treachery to Syrian governor Cestius, Florus laughed at the Jews.

5.              Passover, Monday 28th April AD 66: The 7 miraculous signs recorded by Josephus end when the miraculous comet and star disappear after being visible since Passover AD 65.

6.              On Friday, 16th May AD 66 (Sixteen days after Passover AD 66) Florus visits Caesarea and accepts a bribe of 8 talents from the Jews to stop construction of buildings that hinder access to their synagogue. Florus leaves for Sebaste without doing as promised. (Wars 2.287-288)

7.              One day later, on Sabbath, 17th May AD 66 (17 days after Passover) The local Greeks desecrating the synagogue with an upside down clay jar of dead birds that had been sacrificed to idols at the entrance of the synagogue. Florus begins provoking the Jews into war as a pretext of stealing their money in the Jerusalem temple.

8.              17th May AD 66: Florus travels immediately down to Caesarea and deliberately pollutes a Jewish synagogue on the Sabbath.

9.              Monday 25th Aug 66 (14th Av): The war spreads Jerusalem. The liberate Jerusalem begins on the festival of Xylophory on Monday 25th Aug 66 [14th Av] It is nothing short of incredible that the beginning of the destruction of Jerusalem by fire was by Jews who used the wood donated during the festival of Xylophory for the Altar of Burnt offerings in the temple. Talk about creating their own “literal Holocaust” with the wood used for the Jewish temple Altar!

10.          28th August AD 66: Manahem arrives at Jerusalem and surrounds the city fulfilling Lk 21:20 but is killed on 15th September AD 66. (Wars 2.433-440) This was likely when the second wave the Christians fled the city. After entering the city as a leader, he was finally defeated and fled the city on 15th September AD 66. While the Jews would have felt safe, the Christians knew disaster was near for the city. This corresponds to the second attach of Nebuchadnezzar on Jerusalem on 9th December 598 BC when Jehoiachin/Jeconiah/Coniah and Ezekiel obey the order of Jeremiah and surrender voluntarily (2 Kings 24:10-16). They are deported along with a group of 3023 Jews who surrendered by Nebuzaradan: Jer 52:29. These would likely have been caught up in the weedy and rocky soils of life (parable of the sower) but they finally obeyed the second command to leave. They would likely only get out of the city with the easiest of possessions to convert to cash.

11.          28th August AD 66: Christians begin to flee the city on 28th August AD 66, which is the day Manahem first surrounds Jerusalem.

12.          15th September AD 66: Jerusalem is liberated 15th September AD 66 when Manahem is killed: Wars 2.433-440

13.          25th September AD 66: Jerusalem surrounded a second time by Jewish armies: Herod Agrippa II sends Syrian Governor Cestius and his Roman army to set up camp 6 miles outside Jerusalem to attempt to restore peace but the Jews attack and repel the Roman army. (Wars 2.516) The city is surrounded a second time by Jewish armies around 25th September AD 66 to defend against all the approaching Roman armies. All city gates are guarded on the outside. (Josephus Wars 2.522)

14.          October AD 66: Agrippa sent two ambassadors named Phebus and Borceus to apologize to the Jews of the city in an effort to end the war. The Jews killed Phebus and wounded Borceus who escaped the city. (Wars 2.521)

15.          Nov 3, AD 66 While the Jews in the city were in a state of disorganization, Syrian Governor Cestius Gallus sets up his army on mount Scopus, 1 km from the temple mount but did not attack for three full days to see if the deliberate pause in the fighting might cause the Jews to calm down and stop the war. (Wars 2.528)

16.          About Nov 10, AD 66: Roman Syrian Governor Cestius Gallus, withdraws his armies secretly to Antipatris and stops attacking Jerusalem: The Romans begin attacking the city walls but Cestius devised a trick to secretly retreat his army to Antipatris. (Wars 2.551). The Jews took possession of many mechanical war machines like the Ballista (see below for photo), that the Roman’s left behind. (Wars 2.554). This was likely when the third wave of Christians fled the city. Persecutions from the Jews would have begun and they likely left with only what they could take in a panic after the Roman armies left. While the Jews were bringing in Ballista and Scorpion machines of war into the city, the Christians were fleeing the city. This corresponds to the third deportation of 587 BC when 832 Jews were deported to Babylon upon capture. (Jer 52:29)

17.          December AD 66 Nero sends Vespasian to destroy Jerusalem: “So Nero esteemed these circumstances as favorable omens, and saw that Vespasian’s age gave him sure experience, and great skill, and that he had his sons as hostages for his fidelity to himself, and that the flourishing age they were in would make them fit instruments under their father’s prudence. Perhaps also there was some interposition of Providence, which was paving the way for Vespasian’s being himself emperor afterwards. (7) Upon the whole he sent this man to take upon him the command of the armies that were in Syria; but this not without great encomiums and flattering compellations, such as necessity required, and such as might mollify him into complaisance. (8) So Vespasian sent his son Titus from Achaia, where he had been with Nero, to Alexandria, to bring back with him from thence the fifth and tenth legions, while he himself, when he had passed over the Hellespont, came by land into Syria, where he gathered together, the Roman forces, with a considerable number of auxiliaries from the kings in that neighborhood.” (Josephus Wars 3.6-8)

18.          Jan AD 66 – Aug AD 70: Some Christians were able to bribe or sneak their way out of Jerusalem and immediately surrender to either Vespasian or Titus. This is likely the 4th wave of Christians to leave the city. This corresponds to the 4th deportation of 582 Jews who ignored all commands to surrender and fled from Jerusalem to Egypt only to be captured by Nebuchadnezzar. (Jer 44:30; 52:30; Josephus Antiquities 10:181) These Christians refused to leave the city with the first three waves and were trapped inside after Jan AD67. If they made it out alive they were likely the ones who were sent to Pella by Titus. These lost every material possession for their disobedience to Christ because they were worldly and lukewarm Christians. In hindsight, they regret not leaving when they first read the book of Revelation when in arrived early Spring AD 66.

19.          Titus arrives to destroy Jerusalem: 7th March AD 70

20.          Daily Temple Sacrifices Stop: 14th July AD 70, Sabbath [17 Tammuz/Panemus]: Synchronism with Daniel 8:9-14 & Daniel 11:21-45 Abomination of Desolation= John stops temple sacrifices: Daniel 8:9-14 and Daniel 11:21-45 = Mt 24 = Josephus Wars 6.93-129

21.          6th August AD 70: Temple burned.

_____________________________________________________________________________

NOTE:

Parker and Dubberstein are the current scholastic standard for Jewish to Julian dates conversion today:

1.      In 1971, Parker and Dubberstein published their landmark work in fixing past chronological dates which were consistently in error.

a.        Any book published before AD 1971 will be in error when converting Bible dates and those used by Josephus of about three weeks.

b.      Almost all dates in most published scholastic works have an error of about three weeks.

c.       These major chronological errors are caused by using flawed, outdated and obsolete Jewish to Julian conversion tables.

2.      The Bible Only Revelation Commentary by Steven Rudd (2018 AD) utilizes the Parker and Dubberstein Hebrew to Julian date conversion tables.

a.       Babylonian Chronology: 626 B.C. - A.D. 75, Richard Anthony Parker, Waldo H Dubberstein, 1971 AD

b.      See detailed Chronological tables of Parker and Dubberstein

c.       See: Online Parker and Dubberstein date converter.

d.      Special thanks to Rodger Young who has been an invaluable help in this matter.

3.      All dates in this Revelation Commentary follow Parker and Dubberstein.

Dating Example: Destruction of Jerusalem Temple on 10th Av AD 70

4.      The Temple of Jerusalem was burned on 10th Av AD 70 and the correct Julian date according to Parker and Dubberstein is Monday 6th August AD 70.

5.      However, Wikipedia (Notoriously inaccurate) many online websites (ie. Gary. J. Goldberg’s Josephus Chronology) and published scholastic Bible reference works incorrectly date the 10th Av to 29th August AD 70.

6.      This means that the correct Julian date for 10th Av is 23 days (3 weeks) earlier than incorrectly recorded online and in Bible encyclopedias.

a.       Correct: Monday 6th August AD 70 (Parker and Dubberstein)

b.      Wrong: 29th August AD 70 (23 days later than correct date)

7.      Both Nebuchadnezzar and Titus burned the Jerusalem Temple on the exact same day of the year: 10th Av.

8.      Modern Jewish Rabbis and Jewish Scholars generally reject Josephus as a corrupted fabrication of Christians and date the burning of the temple to Av 9, one day earlier than Josephus. Of course even Josephus noted that the Jews of the first century were “creeped out” that the 10th Av was the exact same day of the year that Nebuchanezzar burned the Solomonic temple in 587 BC.

Still reading......

[Charlie744]

1 hour ago, kingdombrat said:

I prefer to make things simpler.

 

Ultimately, what happened [AFTER] Yeshua ascended to Heaven until the 70 A.D. destruction?

A Spiritual War between Judaism and the New Gospel of Christ.

But when the 70 A.D. destruction took place, the physical Temple was destroyed, and the Jews were forced to evacuate/scattered all over the world, what stood Defiant and Victorious?

The Gospel of Christ.

 

I simply see the ridding of the physical Temple as a major breakthrough for Gospel of Christ to flourish.

Ultimately, I see God's Design and Purpose to destroy the Temple [which is solely attached to the Jew], so the Reign of the Gentile [which we are currently in] could take over the world like it has for the past 1,900 years.

 

No Temple = no Jew Reign

No Temple = Gentile Reign through the Gospel of Christ

 

It's Beautiful how Gohd made this happen!

Great.... but WHY 70 AD?

Why would God select that date for this to occur?

If we figure that out we will learn so much!!!

Charlie

[Justin Adams]

1 minute ago, Charlie744 said:

Still reading......

Read it all on this very strange website.

https://www.bible.ca/revelation/Bible-Only-Revelation-Commentary-Josephus-Chronology-Destruction-Jerusalem-First-Jewish-War-70AD.htm

I will not vouch for all that they say here, but they spent considerable time and effort to compile it all. That is why we have the <DEL> key. Just in case. However, reading Josephus' several books is quite tedious as well.

The important thing is PEOPLE ARE THINKING and just not pulpit-watchers. 

[Charlie744]

1 hour ago, kingdombrat said:

I prefer to make things simpler.

 

Ultimately, what happened [AFTER] Yeshua ascended to Heaven until the 70 A.D. destruction?

A Spiritual War between Judaism and the New Gospel of Christ.

But when the 70 A.D. destruction took place, the physical Temple was destroyed, and the Jews were forced to evacuate/scattered all over the world, what stood Defiant and Victorious?

The Gospel of Christ.

 

I simply see the ridding of the physical Temple as a major breakthrough for Gospel of Christ to flourish.

Ultimately, I see God's Design and Purpose to destroy the Temple [which is solely attached to the Jew], so the Reign of the Gentile [which we are currently in] could take over the world like it has for the past 1,900 years.

 

No Temple = no Jew Reign

No Temple = Gentile Reign through the Gospel of Christ

 

It's Beautiful how God made this happen!

kingdombrat, here is one of my thoughts running through my mind...

1) could He be connecting somehow the number of years between the Cross and 70 AD -

       a) if it was a clear 40 years (because we really do not know if He was crucified in 34, 30, or 31 AD), would this symbolize the Jews having to go through the “desert” once again (symbolically) as their punishment?   

            1) and at the end of the 40 years all of those would have died except for two (Joshua and Caleb) who would also symbolize the remnant that will come to believe in Jesus at the end times - some 2,000 years later?

See God could have had Titus or anyone else destroy the Jews AND He could have this take place anytime He wanted- maybe 52 AD, or 42 AD, or 63 AD.... 

But God does NOT do random or by chance or coincidence!!!! Everything has a wonderful message and purpose... regardless of how insignificant WE might see it and skip over it to miss the reason for it.. 

Just my thoughts, Charlie 

[Charlie744]

52 minutes ago, Charlie744 said:

Still reading......

Still reading......

[Guest kingdombrat]

42 minutes ago, Charlie744 said:

Great.... but WHY 70 AD?

Why would God select that date for this to occur?

If we figure that out we will learn so much!!!

Charlie

What's interesting is how long was Yeshua on this Earth, around 33 1/3 years.   How long from His Ascension til the 70 A.D. destruction, some have it around 33 1/3 years.   Is 33 1/3 significant?   If we double that to 66 2/3, is that significant?   This Prophecy is based off Matthew 24 and the first few Verses and some later verses.  Some people claim 33 is a generation point.   So from Matthew 24 to this Destruction, we could be discussing a single Generation.   But I do not believe this is connected to Daniel because Messiah is cut off a whole Generation before this Destruction.

[Justin Adams]

Jeremiah said 70 years. And they were in captivity for that long due to their sin of idolatry and playing the harlot.

They came back and set up the temple pretty please. As expected, they then killed the Messiah...

And then in AD70 God trounced them really well. Badly. Maybe they had forgotten the 70. Now the ages mock them further I guess. Daniel's 70 is equally telling as well. Not like they were not warned. We should take careful note of that.

Dumb thing is, Jews were killing Jews aplenty before Rome really squashed them in 70AD, but the believers escaped.