Starise Posted June 19, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,104 Content Per Day: 9.70 Reputation: 13,591 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Whyme said: I suppose i was referring to chapter 6 and 3. I see your point about chapter 3, but my focus is on anything to do with the temple of the holy spirit. My apologies to you guys for looking at another similar text, though I don't think a specific text was mentioned. Since this is the text you are focusing on, this answer might depend on how we see the Holy Spirit. One observation here, 1 Cor chapter 6 starts out addressing immature Christians just like chapter 3 does. 1 Cor 6 says a lot about s-e-x. There is something very unholy about the union of a Christian physically with a prostitute. I have read better descriptions than I can probably give of what happens when in chap 6:16 when it refers to being joined as "one" to a prostitute. Outwardly it looks more like simply a physical act that is obviously a sin, yet something deeper is taking place according to the text at the souls/spirit level. The closest I can get to a description for what happens might be when we take a blood transfusion from someone else. A part of them is residual in us. Apparently something similar is taking place in the spiritual realm causing us to be in some way tied to the other person. When people view sexual materials they should not be viewing I wonder if it has the same effect? Would a person still own a part of that person even though no contact was made? To be clear I'm not attempting to justify either one. Both are sin, but there is a difference so far as the physical contact goes. Is the bond tighter if there is physical contact? If so, why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyme Posted June 19, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,300 Content Per Day: 1.96 Reputation: 1,125 Days Won: 10 Joined: 02/16/2021 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Starise said: My apologies to you guys for looking at another similar text, though I don't think a specific text was mentioned. Since this is the text you are focusing on, this answer might depend on how we see the Holy Spirit. One observation here, 1 Cor chapter 6 starts out addressing immature Christians just like chapter 3 does. 1 Cor 6 says a lot about s-e-x. There is something very unholy about the union of a Christian physically with a prostitute. I have read better descriptions than I can probably give of what happens when in chap 6:16 when it refers to being joined as "one" to a prostitute. Outwardly it looks more like simply a physical act that is obviously a sin, yet something deeper is taking place according to the text at the souls/spirit level. The closest I can get to a description for what happens might be when we take a blood transfusion from someone else. A part of them is residual in us. Apparently something similar is taking place in the spiritual realm causing us to be in some way tied to the other person. When people view sexual materials they should not be viewing I wonder if it has the same effect? Would a person still own a part of that person even though no contact was made? To be clear I'm not attempting to justify either one. Both are sin, but there is a difference so far as the physical contact goes. Is the bond tighter if there is physical contact? If so, why? No apology needed, you had a valid point about the difference in the two chapters. As for your question, i dont know. I do like this scripture here. It says we are one with the Lord. 1 Corinthians 6:17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopefully Posted June 19, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,323 Content Per Day: 1.06 Reputation: 1,465 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/07/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Starise said: My apologies to you guys for looking at another similar text, I think chapter 3 that you referred to is very relevant and we could pull from both chapter 3 and 6 for this question. Im thinking the material vs physical contact produces lust, bad thoughts, and spiritual problems. We can see that physical contact produces spiritual problems and many other problems such as divorce from infidelity, broken families (single parenthood), child support cases with jail time, debt, and revoked licenses from non payment of child support, hate, abortions because not married, sexually transmitted diseases from multiple partners and worse of all being charged with being and adulterer or fornicator and possibly a murderer. I’m sure there’s even more we can add. And to think all that needs to be done to avoid this list is to only sleep with who your married to just like God told us in the beginning. Edited June 19, 2021 by Hopefully 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyme Posted June 19, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,300 Content Per Day: 1.96 Reputation: 1,125 Days Won: 10 Joined: 02/16/2021 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) How often do we think about being one with the Lords Spirit? What does that mean exactly? Is that like a marriage contract? James calls his readers adulterers because they were friends with the world. Spiritual adultery is a real thing, Israel was guilty of it. Its like the marriage relationship we have with our spouse is just the symbolism and the real relationship it points to is our relationship with the Lord. I dont know, just my thoughts. Edited June 19, 2021 by Whyme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post debrakay Posted June 19, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,249 Content Per Day: 1.94 Reputation: 3,104 Days Won: 20 Joined: 03/02/2021 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2021 I love how the Lord works things out! I spent a considerable amount of time reading through this thread this morning and then felt I needed to respond from my point of view. I wrote out a pretty lengthy reply but when I went to post it the topic had been closed! I was bummed. For some reason I decided to save what I had written. Now tonight I find that the thread has been reopened! My second chance to share my thoughts. I'm thinking maybe the Lord decided there is someone who needs to hear my words. Only he really knows. Here is what I wrote this morning. I have tried to read through this thread this morning as best I can (there was a ton of scripture!). I know the topic is about the Holy Spirit living in us, the temple of God, but there is no way to not talk about sin when we talk about us, human beings, who are sinners from the get-go. My take on being a temple for the Holy Spirit to reside in is this; he knows I am a sinner, that I have accepted Jesus as my savior, and that I am cleansed by the blood of the cross. He has watched me from the time I began on the milk of the word and continued to watch as I was weaned off the milk and turned to the meat portion. He knows my heart. He hears my prayers asking for forgiveness for any sin I commit in a day. He lives in me and with me on a daily basis. He has been with me for a long time and still loves and comforts me. Has he ever been displeased with me? Of course he has. I'm an imperfect human being and he knows all about my past, my present and my future. But again, I repeat, he knows my heart, he knows my soul, he knows my spirit, he knows ALL things about me. I praise God for the patience, mercy and grace that is afforded to me, this pile of dirt, that I am. Each one of us that give our hearts and lives to the Lord, give our bodies also. We should see an improvement in the way we do things spiritually and bodily as we continue our walk with him and our learning of his ways. We should be boldly confessing Jesus whenever and wherever we can without judgement and condemnation from the worldly eye that is continually watching our every action. Didn't the Lord say he would use a rock if he needed too, if we did not declare him to the world? Luke 19:37-40 - When he came near the place where the road goes down the Mount of Olives, the whole crowd of disciples began joyfully to praise God in loud voices for all the miracles they had seen, “Blessed is the king who comes in the name of the Lord!” “Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!” Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Jesus, “Teacher, rebuke your disciples!” “I tell you,”he replied, “if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out.” If a person professes Christ as their savior, they should be different than they were prior to salvation. Those difference should be noticeable to ourselves and to the outside world. As a temple that holds the power and light of the Holy Spirit, we should be a "shining light to a dark world" and if we are not then we need to go back to the milk and find out what the issue is. In my walk, I have had to go back to the milk several times due to sin. But I am a far better and cleaner temple than I was at the beginning of my journey! Praise God!! Thank you for letting me share my heart. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopefully Posted June 19, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,323 Content Per Day: 1.06 Reputation: 1,465 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/07/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Whyme said: Is that like a marriage contract? I think it is. God is faithful to us and we should be faithful to him. We should love him with all our hearts and worship no other Gods. “For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.” Isaiah 62:5 KJV “and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee; Christ is the Lord God of his church and people; Immanuel, God with us; and he stands in the relation of a bridegroom to them, and they in the relation of a bride to him; and as such he rejoices over them with exceeding great joy” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clancy Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Whyme said: How often do we think about being one with the Lords Spirit? What does that mean exactly? Is that like a marriage contract? James calls his readers adulterers because they were friends with the world. Spiritual adultery is a real thing, Israel was guilty of it. Its like the marriage relationship we have with our spouse is just the symbolism and the real relationship it points to is our relationship with the Lord. I dont know, just my thoughts. Being in agreement with the Holy Spirit, walking in his will, being one with the Lord is like a marriage contract, my spirit belongs to God, my life, my body, I either surrender to him or I go my own way....well, I did that at the beginning of my walk ,as I had no understanding, a new babe. Over the years I have, ( I believe) submitted most areas of my life over to God, He is in charge, I don’t want to be in charge, I mess up big time, the flesh is weak ,but the spirit is willing,...... I am His Temple, he dwells within me, he is alive in me, we can grieve and hurt God, that is my belief. No one comes before God...I had two large Buddha statues, I had them for around a year ,why did I buy them,I paid a lot of money for them, in my ignorance,I never knew they were a false God. God I believe, told me to get rid of them...I did, immediately I heard him say. “ get rid of them”. Edited June 19, 2021 by clancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve morrow Posted June 20, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,056 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Online Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted June 20, 2021 HAVING THE SPIRIT IF THE SPIRIT DWELLS IN YOU DO YOU NOT THEN SPEAK THE SPIRIT JOHN 6:63 it is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh profiteth nothing --the words-- that I speak they are spirit and they are life 2 THESSALONIANS 2:8 and then shall that wicked be revealed whom THE LORD shall consume with the spirit of HIS MOUTH and shall destroy with the brightness of HIS coming JOHN 3:34 for HE whom GOD hath sent speaketh the words of GOD for GOD giveth not the spirit by measure unto HIM PROVERBS 15:4 a wholesome tongue is a tree of life but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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