truth7t7 Posted January 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, The Light said: There will be a falling away from the truth. That has nothing to do with whether there will be a pretribulation rapture. It's not going to change, there isnt a pre-trib rapture of the church to heaven found in scripture, it's the invention of man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted January 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, truth7t7 said: I disagree, there is one seal of God, and your claims have been silenced in God's words of presented truth The 144,000 will be sealed by God, and "Added" to the church present on earth, it's that simple I will respectfully disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted January 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, The Light said: The 144,000 are not added to the Church. The Church is already in heaven before the 7 seals are even opened. See the kings and priests of Rev 5. That is the Church. The church will be on this earth during the tribulation, and be eyewitnesses of the second coming As scripture clearly teaches below, the church will look up as Jesus Christ their redemption returns Luke 21:25-28KJV 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted January 14, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,084 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, truth7t7 said: It's not going to change, there isnt a pre-trib rapture of the church to heaven found in scripture, it's the invention of man Is the Church raptured to heaven? Or do they stay on the earth for an earthly kingdom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted January 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The Light said: Is the Church raptured to heaven? Or do they stay on the earth for an earthly kingdom? Jesus Christ returns in fire and final judgement, at this time the resurrection of all takes place and the catching up/rapture of the believer This is the final judgement, as the earth is dissolved by fire, the New Heavens, Earth, Jerusalem, are revealed, all in the twinkling of an eye, eternity begins Edited January 14, 2022 by truth7t7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted January 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) Deleted Edited January 14, 2022 by truth7t7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted January 14, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,084 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, truth7t7 said: Jesus Christ returns in fire and final judgement, at this time the resurrection of all takes place and the catching up/rapture of the believer This is the final judgement, as the earth is dissolved by fire, the New Heavens, Earth, Jerusalem, are revealed, all in the twinkling of an eye, eternity begins How is it that you ignore this scripture? Rev 20 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted January 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Light said: How is it that you ignore this scripture? Rev 20 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. There is one time of resurrection for all, this takes place on the (Last Day) at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second) death resurrection has no power. 1.) (First) Resurrection To Life 2.) (Second) Resurrection To Damnation, The Second Death (Revelation) 20:6KJV Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below (John) 5:28-29KJV 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. (John) 6:39-40KJV 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. (1 Corinthians) 15:21-24KJV 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. The (Last Day) Judgement (John) 12:48KJV 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted January 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Light said: How is it that you ignore this scripture? Rev 20 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only? "Deceive The Nations" To Battle The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World? Satan Is Presently Bound From (One Specific Purpose) As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently. Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle Revelation 20:1-9KJV 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. (Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event (Revelation) 16:12-17KJV 12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. 16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted January 14, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,084 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, truth7t7 said: There is one time of resurrection for all, this takes place on the (Last Day) at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second) death resurrection has no power. 1.) (First) Resurrection To Life 2.) (Second) Resurrection To Damnation, The Second Death (Revelation) 20:6KJV Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below (John) 5:28-29KJV 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. (John) 6:39-40KJV 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. (1 Corinthians) 15:21-24KJV 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. The (Last Day) Judgement (John) 12:48KJV 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. So I guess you are just going to ignore the scripture that said that the rest of the dead lived not again until the 1000 years were finished. It is so hard for me to understand why so many people, over and over and over ignore the written Word of God. I just can't process it. It makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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